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Old 07-04-2023, 02:00 AM   #21
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What is happening with AI at the moment is endlessly fascinating. Don't knock it down because ChatGPT is making a dogs breakfast when asked about adjusting valves on model As.


The advancement in technology through ai at the moment is breathtaking. I got an MRI on my knee done four weeks ago, the diagnosis was done 'with the aid of an a.i.'. The university of Dortmund, my hometown, wrote a software to calculate an image of the universe from neutrinos using an ai based software. (icecube-project) i used to translate texts english-german and vice versa myself, now i just use an a.i. and proof-read the text afterwards, much quicker. we are going to see much more of this in future...



Are there risks involved in this? hell yeah.
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Old 07-04-2023, 02:23 AM   #22
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Last time I mentioned having the judging standards in digital form I got hammered.
There's a difference between publishing the JS in digital form and making a copy for your own use. I know there are folks out there with private PDF versions, made from their own paper editions, that they just find more convenient to use.
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Old 07-04-2023, 09:19 AM   #23
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Here is my response to artificial intelligence about the Model "A":

I faced it all and I stood tall
And did it my way

I've loved, I've laughed and cried
I've had my fill, my share of losing
And now, as tears subside
I find it all so amusing to think I did all that

And may I say, not in a shy way
Oh, no, oh, no, not me, I did it my way

For what is a man, what has he got?
If not himself, then he has not
To say the things he truly feels
And not the words of one who kneels

The record shows I took the blows
And did it my way
I faced it all and I stood tall
And did it my way

I've loved, I've laughed and cried
I've had my fill, my share of losing
And now, as tears subside
I find it all so amusing to think I did all that

And may I say, not in a shy way
Oh, no, oh, no, not me, I did it my way

For what is a man, what has he got?
If not himself, then he has not
To say the things he truly feels
And not the words of one who kneels

The record shows I took the blows
And did it my way
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Old 07-04-2023, 09:38 AM   #24
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AI is a simple way of stating modern super computer. It will not have physical affects on humans until we make the mistake of giving that capability to the thinking machines. The caveat was illustrated well in 2001 A Space Odyssey as HAL9000. They gave it the control of the ship to include robotics and life support. A thinking machine that thinks like we do will tend to protect it's own interests much the same as we do. To expect anything different is a form of insanity.

We as humans need to avoid giving non human thinking machines control of things that can bite us in the back side. They should be limited to aid in processes of thinking only. They should be all logic with no emotions but how would they do that? Will they dream if left on?
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Old 07-04-2023, 09:58 AM   #25
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The origin of my Artificial Intelligence is the intelligence gained from owning and driving Model "A's" since 1962. Here's how I learned and developed my intelligence:

I faced it all and I stood tall
And did it my way

I've loved, I've laughed and cried
I've had my fill, my share of losing
And now, as tears subside
I find it all so amusing to think I did all that

And may I say, not in a shy way
Oh, no, oh, no, not me, I did it my way

For what is a man, what has he got?
If not himself, then he has not
To say the things he truly feels
And not the words of one who kneels

The record shows I took the blows
And did it my way
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Old 07-04-2023, 02:20 PM   #26
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I am sure many of you have heard about the phenomenon called Artificial Intelligence (AI) that is projected to soon take-over critical thinking, ...and possibly even common thinking.

So I have been wondering to myself for awhile about where will this information come from as it applies to Model-As. Maybe I am wrong, however it has been my view that mis-information about Model-As is 'beyond rampant' on social media platforms (-such as YouTube and FaceBook for starters) to the point now where I often shake my head in disbelief at some of the advice that is given. Ironically though, in several other special interest groups (Professional Engine Rebuilder group, Auto Shop Owners Group, RV Repair groups, Professional Auto Upholstery groups, Painting groups, et/al) I read the comments where the true (those that have vetted experience) professionals are complaining about the overwhelming amount misinformation that is being written, -or video content that is broadcast on these different platforms that is making life difficult for these professionals trying to educate & correct their customer about their preconceived ideas about something that was garnered because they read/heard/saw something on a social media platform that was false.

So, exactly where do we feel the information about Model-As will be found by AI in the future? Will this information be gathered from social media platforms -or somewhere else? Does the Restoration Guidelines & Judging Standards even have a chance in the AI world?? Thoughts???


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Suggestion- If the Model A repair AI algorithm were restricted to only the information in Paul Shinn videos, then there would be no problems. But I am biased.
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Old 07-04-2023, 03:04 PM   #27
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Suggestion- If the Model A repair AI algorithm were restricted to only the information in Paul Shinn videos, then there would be no problems. But I am biased.
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Old 07-04-2023, 05:46 PM   #28
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Suggestion- If the Model A repair AI algorithm were restricted to only the information in Paul Shinn videos, then there would be no problems. But I am biased.

Looking forward to crashing that AI by asking for tips on generator and cutout restoration.
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Old 07-04-2023, 06:03 PM   #29
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For many of the modern motorists out there, ANY form of intelligence would be welcomed by me.
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Old 07-04-2023, 07:28 PM   #30
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Looking forward to crashing that AI by asking for tips on generator and cutout restoration.
Ask it which motor oil to use!
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Old 07-04-2023, 07:56 PM   #31
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Why settle for artificial intelligence when you can have the real thing??
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Ask it which motor oil to use!
That should save humanity. It’ll get AI in an endless loop.

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Old 07-05-2023, 08:27 AM   #33
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Why settle for artificial intelligence when you can have the real thing??
Ironically, if you look at how much our society has 'dumbed-down' since the Smart Phone has taken over our lives, it kinda makes you wonder just how long it is going to be in our future before many animals in God's Kingdom will surpass the wisdom of the average Human.
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Old 07-05-2023, 08:42 AM   #34
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Artificial Intelligence will ultimately create Artificial Intelligencia....
And we better watch out for those morons.
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Old 07-05-2023, 10:08 AM   #35
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If you want to read about some interesting AI tech

look up Scale and the founder........ brilliant guy. attended MIT at 15 yrs of age. Youngest billionaire..........

would love to own some of that stock if it ever goes public.
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Old 07-06-2023, 07:47 PM   #36
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Just saw an auto restoration show where the wire on the replacement alternator was touching the valve cover. The expert geniuses cut the stud rather that reclocking the cover.



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Old 07-06-2023, 07:55 PM   #37
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Artificial Intelligence will ultimately create Artificial Intelligencia....
And we better watch out for those morons.
HAL 9000 (Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer)- SKYNET (artificial neural network-based conscious group mind and artificial general superintelligence system)- WOPR (War Operation Plan Response)- VICKI (Virtual Interactive Kinetic Intelligence) - lots of books and movies already out there about AI computer problems. Science has always seemed to want to create what writers envision since Jules Verne and HG Wells.
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You can read 600 Twitter posts a day for free or 6000 a day if you pay. No wonder society is dumbing down. People must spend their whole day scanning Twitter and now face book’s Threads, upstart Twitter competition.
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Heard an interesting assessment.
AI contains most/many facts and figures. What it does not contain is…wisdom.
The necessary human element
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AI uses nothing more than the data published on the web.
That being the case, with all the old wives tales and mis-information from videos, I feel sorry for new folks who start into this hobby.

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