1941 Grilles cast or stamped steel????

[Ziffer]

I am helping a friend of mine with his Father's 41. He has stamped and cast potmetal side and center grilles. I assume the stamped are original and the cast potmetal is repro. what is correct???

Thanks for the assistance.
Z

[cmbrucew]

Z

I thought cast were chrome and stamped were to be painted.

Bruce

Works good
Lasts long time

[TJ]

On 41's you can also find the stamped ones chrome plated. Generally the cast was used on the center grille and you might find cast or stamped steel used with the cast center grille.
The Super Deluxe used the chrome plated diecast or the chrome plated steel. On the Deluxe or Special models the side grilles were painted. See page 2-5 of the V-8 Club's 41-48 book.

[G.M.]

The original 41 grills were chrome plated die castings. After market 41 grills were formed from pieces of sheet steel spot welded together and chrome plated. Lasko Metal products, the company that makes the fans for Walmart's and others made most of the after market 41 grills during and after WWII. They were sold through places like Pep Boys and Western Auto. How do I know, I happen to be a friend of Oscar Lasko. About 15 years ago he asked if I ever saw one of his grills. I saw a full set at a flea market shortly after the conversation and bought them for him. G.M.

[Bolts]

G.M that's a good thing to know and a great story to go along with it.

[Karl Wescott]

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GM, too little is known about the early aftermarket parts suppliers... a nice article for something like the V8 times would be great

[fordor41]

If you find a 41grill with F//d cast in the front you. Know it I s an early repo. Some people think the center letters were polished out but it was a way to repo parts without Fords permission. There were a of of model A parts made in the 50s that way.

[mercman from oz]

Regarding 41 Ford Grilles, I have noticed that there are at least 2 different stampings of the Die-cast 41 Ford Grilles. If you look at the Grille on the Grey car, in the corner just under the top heavy bar with the Ford Script, you will notice a small hole between the very end vertical bars. If you look at the Maroon car, you will see that this area in the corner is filled.
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[mercman from oz]

Back again, It seems that the pictures were too big, so I experimented & I think that I have got the pictures attached this time. Time will tell.

[mercman from oz]

Further to my previous comment, here is a close-up shot of the corners of these two different 1941 Ford Grilles. I would think that the one on the Grey car was the genuine original 41 Ford Grille, but I am only guessing? Hopefully, these closeup pictures help to show this detail difference between these two Grilles.

[Mike B]

Mercman...I also notice the lower grills are different as well...look at the corners of them (far right facing) ...look where the first grill bar starts...definitely look like two different pieces.

[mercman from oz]

Further to my previous comment, here is a close-up shot of the corners of these two different 1941 Ford Grilles. I would think that the one on the Grey car was the genuine original 41 Ford Grille, but I am only guessing? Hopefully, these closeup pictures help to show this detail difference between these two Grilles.

[Gary in La.]

Over the years I have had many '41 stamped side grills obtained from old Ford dealer obsolete stock. I have seen 2 types. The one piece stamped grille I was told was aftermarket produced. The Ford stamped side grille had each bar welded in place and appeared original Ford produced as most had a Ford parts tag attached. This was confirmed by several old time Ford parts dept. managers. BUT, no documentation.

[1963turnerjohn]

My 41 Super Deluxe has cast main grill with squarish fins and what appear to be stamped steel rounded fin side grills. Over the years I was told these are both correct and incorrect for a Super Deluxe. Personally I would think FORD would have used a common type main and side grills ( all cast or all stamped )

Can anyone confirm for sure what FORD used on the Super Deluxe models in 41?

Thxs
John

[mercman from oz]

Just to confuse things, I have these Stamped Outter Grille sections in my collection. They were removed from a 41 "Ute" about 30 years ago. Maybe
these items were used on the Special while the Die-cast were used on the
Super Deluxe? There are very few 41 Fords in Australia,, most are Utes that were made by cutting down a Fordor Sedan. They don't look very attractive.

[TJ]

I think we should all remember that Ford outsourced many parts. Just look at the number of different 32 grill baskets out there and the number of 36 grilles that are found on cars. All are original , but from different manufacturers. Since '41 was the beginning of the war who really knows what Ford did to get parts on the cars to get them out in the hands of the public before gearing up for war production. '41 was a changeover year and running changes plus the lack of materials probably dictated how a certain part was produced. The words "never" and "always" should not be in the vocabulary of anyone who owns an old Ford.

[olchebby]

The words "never" and "always" should not be in the vocabulary of anyone who owns an old Ford.[/QUOTE]


Amen to that. I m more of a Chevy man, but I have built a 62 Uni, a 55 truck, a 77 f100 long bed and now a 41. I have some old school Ford men who can tell me which parts will adapt one part to another. Is it just me or did Ford just like to complicate things?