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Old 02-22-2015, 10:51 PM   #1
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I just bought a Model A, and I am learning a lot. The previous owner had started to overhaul the engine, and several parts are missing. It has the multiple disk clutch. It all seems to be there but since I have the motor out should I convert it to a modern clutch. I need the starter also. Looking forward to working on it but I want to keep it as original as possible. Thanks for your input.
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Default Re: Model A with multiple disk clutch

The problem with the multi disk clutch is that the disks are no longer made and replacements are few and far between.

Here is a previous discussion you may find useful;

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96081
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Old 02-22-2015, 11:28 PM   #3
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Thank you. now I have to figure out where to get the parts. I wonder if there is a kit for this
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If the flywheel and clutch discs are good I'd keep the multiplate. You have to look at the splines in the flywheel. If they have deep notches, then the clutch discs can hang up in them. I found a mint flywheel and clutch to use in my 28. I like to keep them as original as possible also.

BTW, if you go to the single plate clutch, you will need everything from the flywheel up to the U-joint, which also includes the clutch and brake pedals.
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If the flywheel and clutch discs are good I'd keep the multiplate. You have to look at the splines in the flywheel. If they have deep notches, then the clutch discs can hang up in them. I found a mint flywheel and clutch to use in my 28. I like to keep them as original as possible also.

BTW, if you go to the single plate clutch, you will need everything from the flywheel up to the U-joint, which also includes the clutch and brake pedals.
I once used a bell housing from a multi plate clutch when converting a car to RHD. It had a single plate clutch in it. It caused no dramas, just a LITTLE thought and modification.
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Her guys thanks for the input My flywheel splines look great with no groves so I guess don't fix it if it's not broke. I don't have a starter, and have been told that the 5/8" shaft will and won't work ??? Also forgive the ignorance but what does all of these abbreviations mean. BTW RHD Btt. Thanks for being patient
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BTW .......By the way

BTT.........back to top

RHD.........right hand drive.........as in England

For the multiplate flywheel you will need the correct 1/2" starter with the ABELL drive, or the service replacement drive.
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Thanks I feel dumb, but I'm learning
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starter... have been told that the 5/8" shaft will and won't work ....
Can someone elaborate on this- I'm replacing the starter ring gear on my multiplate and the starter looks like a "standard" A starter... Is there a problem with this? (I guess it's about 28 years since the starter ring gear was last replaced)
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The bolts on the starter bendix spring are the problem. The bolt head near the drive pinion will hit the flywheel and something will have to give. You can have the flywheel cut down to match the outside diameter of the single plate flywheel if you really want to use a 5/8" starter.

The 1/2" service drive has a small notch and a headless bolt on the pinion end of the spring, and this gives the needed clearance.
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Here is a service drive.
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I want to keep my A as close to original as possible to original but with 1/2 " shaft starters being harder to find and the bendix being even harder, is there any downside to having the flywheel cut down and the single plate ring gear installed. Especially since I have the flywheel out.
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I want to keep my A as close to original as possible to original but with 1/2 " shaft starters being harder to find and the bendix being even harder, is there any downside to having the flywheel cut down and the single plate ring gear installed. Especially since I have the flywheel out.
The ring gears are the same. Cutting off just enough for the starter drive to clear should be a problem, just be sure it's balanced again. The ring gears are the same for all A's
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RHD.........right hand drive.........as in England

For the multiplate flywheel you will need the correct 1/2" starter with the ABELL drive, or the service replacement drive.
The split between right and left hand drive cars world wide is pretty close to 50/50 according to something I read a little while ago. Up till 1909, even the US was RHD.
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[QUOTE=Mike V. Florida;1038641]The problem with the multi disk clutch is that the disks are no longer made and replacements are few and far between.


You can send your discs to Fort Wayne Clutch (FWC) in Indiana. They relined some for me about 5 years ago and did an excellent job. If you need some discs, PM me, as I have a stack of them waiting for someone in need.

The link below is for FWC.
Good Day!

http://www.fortwayneclutch.com/
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