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just plain bill · 05-15-2013, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by V4F

well charlie no longer makes them . any ideas ? a good used one ! thanks .. steve

Solid copper gaskets are notorious for seeping. I think you will have more problems especially around the studs. I'm getting ready to use one as I cannot buy a head gasket to fit the head I'm going to use. I had mine annealed by a firm in Valencia Ca. I purchased it from Taylor Engine several years ago.

James Rogers · 05-15-2013, 04:27 PM

I agree with MikeK,. I have run engines that had out of the box pistons and NO Counterbore on the head and never had a problem. This means the head was absolutely flat and it never hada piston hit, even in a racing situation. You could surface the stock head 125 thousands and never have a properly fitted piston hit it. Even a high compression head shaved to flat won't hit the pistons. Yours is wrong with one piston protruding .080 and the rest at less. Sounds like a hack job on the crank.

V4F · 05-15-2013, 07:11 PM

i agree . either crank turned wrong , uneven rods , or just a mess .
i understand the correct process , trying to help a guy with out more $$$$
may bite me , but a guy has to try .......... thanks

62pan · 05-15-2013, 07:32 PM

You could try this link or do as I did and double up on the gasket. Gasket Works Products

V4F · 05-16-2013, 08:11 AM

bill / 62pan ... thank you ! ............ steve

V4F · 05-21-2013, 02:07 PM

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still needing help finding a .062 head gasket for the "A" . any ideas appreciated ..... thanks

bettlesr · 05-21-2013, 10:52 PM

Hi!
When I had my engine rebuilt, the pistons stuck up quite far. The standard gaskets worked OK with the stock head. When I tried to put a flat 7:1 Winfield head on it, there was no way it would fit. My local machinist said he could fly cut the head but then it would be a lower compression if I ever wanted to put it on a stock engine. As the machinist also builds racing engines, he suggested I get a copper gasket and put it between two stock gaskets. The sandwich was, the block, a standard head gasket, the copper gasket, another stock gasket, and then the head. I also changed the studs to the chrome moly type. The only other thing I had to do was to make a new drive shaft for the distributor as it only engeged by about .1".
The gasket came from:

Clark COPPER Head Gaskets
10510 Nassau Street
Blaine, MN 55449
Phone: 763-786-9590
www.clarkcopperheadgaskets.com

I had them open the bore to .100 over to match my block.
It's been together for a couple of years and 2000 miles with no problem. I am also running a Ford F150 trans with OD (4th gear).
Good Luck
Dick

05-15-2013, 04:27 PM	#22
James Rogers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Asheville,NC Posts: 3,104	Re: piston/block heigth I agree with MikeK,. I have run engines that had out of the box pistons and NO Counterbore on the head and never had a problem. This means the head was absolutely flat and it never hada piston hit, even in a racing situation. You could surface the stock head 125 thousands and never have a properly fitted piston hit it. Even a high compression head shaved to flat won't hit the pistons. Yours is wrong with one piston protruding .080 and the rest at less. Sounds like a hack job on the crank. __________________ http://www.model-a-ford-4bangers.com/

05-15-2013, 07:11 PM	#23
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: piston/block heigth i agree . either crank turned wrong , uneven rods , or just a mess . i understand the correct process , trying to help a guy with out more $$$$ may bite me , but a guy has to try .......... thanks __________________ V4f

05-15-2013, 07:32 PM	#24
62pan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Middletown Pa Posts: 391	Re: piston/block heigth You could try this link or do as I did and double up on the gasket. Gasket Works Products

05-16-2013, 08:11 AM	#25
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: piston/block heigth bill / 62pan ... thank you ! ............ steve __________________ V4f

05-21-2013, 02:07 PM	#26
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: piston/block heigth Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) still needing help finding a .062 head gasket for the "A" . any ideas appreciated ..... thanks __________________ V4f

05-21-2013, 10:52 PM	#27
bettlesr Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Florham Park, NJ Posts: 396	Re: piston/block heigth Hi! When I had my engine rebuilt, the pistons stuck up quite far. The standard gaskets worked OK with the stock head. When I tried to put a flat 7:1 Winfield head on it, there was no way it would fit. My local machinist said he could fly cut the head but then it would be a lower compression if I ever wanted to put it on a stock engine. As the machinist also builds racing engines, he suggested I get a copper gasket and put it between two stock gaskets. The sandwich was, the block, a standard head gasket, the copper gasket, another stock gasket, and then the head. I also changed the studs to the chrome moly type. The only other thing I had to do was to make a new drive shaft for the distributor as it only engeged by about .1". The gasket came from: Clark COPPER Head Gaskets 10510 Nassau Street Blaine, MN 55449 Phone: 763-786-9590 www.clarkcopperheadgaskets.com I had them open the bore to .100 over to match my block. It's been together for a couple of years and 2000 miles with no problem. I am also running a Ford F150 trans with OD (4th gear). Good Luck Dick __________________ 1965 Lotus Elan S2 1930 Model A Sport Coupe