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Cool Hand Lurker · 03-23-2022, 11:26 AM

My Model A does not have engine pans. Other than keeping the engine clean and cool will adding them cut down the engine/chassis/road noises?

Mike Peters · 03-23-2022, 01:14 PM

I don't know about noise abatement, but engine pans help cool the engine.

Mikeinnj · 03-23-2022, 01:17 PM

They will not surpress engine,chassis or road noise. They will add anadditional point of ground to the electrical system.
To decrease engine and road noise you may want to insulate the interior firewall surface and floors.Sound deadening material can also be added inside the doors.

J Franklin · 03-23-2022, 01:17 PM

A plus is that if you accidentally drop a nut while working on the engine, it doesn't disappear into the gravel on the driveway!

Cool Hand Lurker · 03-23-2022, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by J Franklin

A plus is that if you accidentally drop a nut while working on the engine, it doesn't disappear into the gravel on the driveway!

Gee, that has never happened to me.....

Thank you!

Gene F · 03-23-2022, 05:30 PM

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Good points. I might add that when you open the hood the pans just give it a more finished look. JMHO

CarlG · 03-24-2022, 02:31 AM

When I put my "new" engine in, it had a remote oil filter and a cast exhaust header on it, making it impossible to fit the right engine pan. I really wanted to put engine pans on it (the left one fit OK). I finally was able to alter the right pan so that everything fit. Looks much better now.

Synchro909 · 03-24-2022, 07:43 PM

After the tabs on my pans broke, I ditched them and haven't put them back since. Too much trouble.

Bob Bidonde · 03-26-2022, 08:18 AM

The engine pans have a cooling function:

hazelhoff · 03-26-2022, 04:02 PM

The engine pans are present for a reason. Money Penny Henry got rid of the shrouds … left the pans on. Why ?

Y-Blockhead · 03-27-2022, 08:14 PM

The ears tend to crack on the engine pans where they are attached with pan bolts, as seen in Carl G's photo. I install large washers that I trimmed to fit the pan rail to spread out the load. Haven't had any crack since I started installing them.

Cool Hand Lurker · 03-28-2022, 09:12 AM

Good idea, Y-B. I found out a long time ago that when you are bolting sheet metal to anything you have to put a large washer on the bolt or the sheet will eventually crack. Especially if it is where the sheet has vibration or movement. I think that is why they invented 'fender washers' so the fenders wouldn't crack. Plus, the slotted holes on the fender made it even weaker. Also, if you had a cork pan gasket the holes in the pan would bell out eventually and the gasket could not get tight enough to seal. I've hammered more than one pan just to flatten the holes again.

03-23-2022, 11:26 AM	#1
Cool Hand Lurker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Minn Posts: 1,565	Engine pans My Model A does not have engine pans. Other than keeping the engine clean and cool will adding them cut down the engine/chassis/road noises?

03-23-2022, 01:14 PM	#2
Mike Peters Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: South East Wisconsin Posts: 1,279	Re: Engine pans I don't know about noise abatement, but engine pans help cool the engine.

03-23-2022, 01:17 PM	#3
Mikeinnj Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 1,262	Re: Engine pans They will not surpress engine,chassis or road noise. They will add anadditional point of ground to the electrical system. To decrease engine and road noise you may want to insulate the interior firewall surface and floors.Sound deadening material can also be added inside the doors.

03-23-2022, 01:17 PM	#4
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,963	Re: Engine pans A plus is that if you accidentally drop a nut while working on the engine, it doesn't disappear into the gravel on the driveway!

03-23-2022, 05:30 PM	#6
Gene F Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,973	Re: Engine pans Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Good points. I might add that when you open the hood the pans just give it a more finished look. JMHO

03-24-2022, 07:43 PM	#8
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: Engine pans After the tabs on my pans broke, I ditched them and haven't put them back since. Too much trouble. __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood. Last edited by Synchro909; 03-26-2022 at 02:07 PM.

03-26-2022, 04:02 PM	#10
hazelhoff Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 387	Re: Engine pans The engine pans are present for a reason. Money Penny Henry got rid of the shrouds … left the pans on. Why ? __________________ You don’t own a Model A ... it owns you !

03-27-2022, 08:14 PM	#11
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,849	Re: Engine pans The ears tend to crack on the engine pans where they are attached with pan bolts, as seen in Carl G's photo. I install large washers that I trimmed to fit the pan rail to spread out the load. Haven't had any crack since I started installing them.

03-28-2022, 09:12 AM	#12
Cool Hand Lurker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Minn Posts: 1,565	Re: Engine pans Good idea, Y-B. I found out a long time ago that when you are bolting sheet metal to anything you have to put a large washer on the bolt or the sheet will eventually crack. Especially if it is where the sheet has vibration or movement. I think that is why they invented 'fender washers' so the fenders wouldn't crack. Plus, the slotted holes on the fender made it even weaker. Also, if you had a cork pan gasket the holes in the pan would bell out eventually and the gasket could not get tight enough to seal. I've hammered more than one pan just to flatten the holes again. Last edited by Cool Hand Lurker; 03-28-2022 at 09:18 AM. Reason: more info