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Old 03-03-2022, 08:53 PM   #1
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Hi - I have 2 A’s and a golf cart looking at a 24’ VNose. I will haul 1 A and the GC at a time.

Here are the spec of trailer and pictures

8.5’ x 24’
14K GVWR
12 tie downs
Washout floors
Escape Door

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Old 03-03-2022, 09:01 PM   #2
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I had a 28’, V-nose, 14k when I moved. I was able to haul a 28 Closed cab pickup and a 29 Business Coupe. I did 2 rows of E-track in the floor plus 8 D-rings in the floor. I also did 8’ interior height. It gave me lots of options to tie things down. My new at the time 2019 GMC Denali Crew cab diesel would get about 8.5 mpg towing that moose.
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I had a 28’, V-nose, 14k when I moved. I was able to haul a 28 Closed cab pickup and a 29 Business Coupe. I did 2 rows of E-track in the floor plus 8 D-rings in the floor. I also did 8’ interior height. It gave me lots of options to tie things down. My new at the time 2019 GMC Denali Crew cab diesel would get about 8.5 mpg towing that moose.

Very nice - my tow vehicle is a 2021 F350 Dually 6.7


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Old 03-03-2022, 09:24 PM   #4
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I also mounted a winch in the front and always winched my cars in. It was a little slower, but offered better control of the loading. I also unloaded them with the winch.
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Old 03-04-2022, 05:15 AM   #5
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Start with the horse that is pulling the cart.
What is your tow vehicle GVWR ?
What is the actual curb weight of your tow vehicle fully loaded & fueled ?
Deduct the curb weight from the GVWR and that is the weight of a loaded
trailer you can safely pull.
Now deduct the curb weight of what the load
is that you are putting in the trailer.
What remains is the empty weight of a trailer
you can safely pull.

That weight rating will determine if you will
buy an aluminum frame or steel frame trailer.

This is the first step ….


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Old 03-04-2022, 05:18 AM   #6
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Start with the horse that is pulling the cart.
What is your tow vehicle GVWR ?
What is the actual curb weight of your tow vehicle fully loaded & fueled ?
Deduct the curb weight from the GVWR and that is the weight of a loaded
trailer you can safely pull.
Niw deduct the curb weight of what the load
is that you are putting in the trailer.
What remains is the empty weight of a trailer
you can safely pull.

That weight rating will determine if you will
buy an aluminum frame or steel frame trailer.

This is the first step ….


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2021 F350 Dually 6.7....... I have a fifth wheel as wellIMG_0515.jpg
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Old 03-04-2022, 05:22 AM   #7
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The next step is to measure the combined
overall length of the vehicle(s) you plan on
hauling in the trailer along with whatever
else you need.

An average Model T measures 13 feet
from bumper to bumper.
You mentioned you planned on only hauling
one at a time along with a golf cart.
But an occasion might arise where you would
need to haul a longer vehicle or both Model A’s.
Two Model A’s won’t fit in a 24 foot trailer.
A nominal size trailer would be 28 feet
but that still is a tight fit.

I would recommend a 30 foot box.


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Old 03-04-2022, 05:48 AM   #8
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The maximum interior space can be
obtained with a coffin front trailer.
A nose cone will increase fuel mileage
and keep your trailer centered in
your lane while towing.
A v nose trailer takes away from interior floor space.
It does not reduce wind drag or increase fuel mileage.
V nose trailers take less material to build so trailer
manufacturers push them to sell thru dealers
because they are cheaper to make.

Steel frame versus aluminum ?
If you are not towing extensively an aluminum
frame trailer will allow for better fuel economy
and higher load capacity by reducing the
empty trailer curb weight.
But an aluminum frame will not
stand up to repeated road stress.

Where do you live & where will you be using the trailer ?
If you live in an area with snow or will be towing in
an area with snow - the ceiling frame members
should be 16 inches nominal on center.

I have been custom designing my enclosed
car hauler trailers to my specifications for
many years and have custom designed
several trailers free as a courtesy to
car enthusiasts.

A full perimeter frame ( no outriggers ).
Ceiling - sidewall - floor structural framing
12 inches on center.
Nominal 3/4 inch CDX plywood floor
screwed to every structural member.
One piece roof bathtub wrapped.
No roof vents or skylights.
0.40 inch aluminum exterior screwed
to every sidewall structural member.
Extended 5 foot tongue.
Adjustable & removable Bulldog coupler on tongue.
Dual torsion axles.
16 inch ST tires rated at 14 ply.

Minimum 5K rear ramp door with full bottom hinge.
Nominal 90 inch wide x 96 inch tall opening.
Side flush recessed doors on driver and passenger side.
Full ceiling LED lighting with switches by side doors.


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Features I install myself:

Epoxy garage paint bare wood factory floor.
Surface mount fully boxed etrac.
12K remote control electric winch w/ 12VDC
battery inside trailer adjacent to winch.
3500 pound electric tongue jack.
Battery feeds winch - tongue jack - interior lights.
Battery is charged by tow vehicle thru 7 way cord.

I load & unload all vehicles by wireless remote
control winch - usually on an upgrade - gravity
holds tension on the winch line while loading
and unloading - no need to open and close
the driver door.

I custom designed a loft storage area with side
slider windows at the nose for storage.
It is high enough so a Model A or T will
fit under it loaded nose first.


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Old 03-04-2022, 06:08 AM   #10
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This is my current hauling set up.
This trailer was custom built in
2018 to my specifications.

I have always utilized the first generation Ford 7.3 PSD
in an F350 2WD CC Dually platform for a tow vehicle.







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Old 03-04-2022, 08:25 AM   #11
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Looks like a nice trailer Carbone! being the typical internet advisor (lol) I was gonna say thats a pretty big trailer, hope you have experience, but seeing that RV I think that little box will cruise easily down the road. Do you have it ordered? just a curiosity as I have heard elsewhere that trailers have a long wait list like most other things nowadays. Does anyone make a gooseneck/5th wheel enclosed trailer? I have seen plenty of flat decks but dont recall ever seeing a box. Big difference between the two as I am sure you are aware of. Sounds like you have a nice truck as well!
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Looks like a nice trailer Carbone! being the typical internet advisor (lol) I was gonna say thats a pretty big trailer, hope you have experience, but seeing that RV I think that little box will cruise easily down the road. Do you have it ordered? just a curiosity as I have heard elsewhere that trailers have a long wait list like most other things nowadays. Does anyone make a gooseneck/5th wheel enclosed trailer? I have seen plenty of flat decks but dont recall ever seeing a box. Big difference between the two as I am sure you are aware of. Sounds like you have a nice truck as well!

Thank you... I found it used for sale by the original owner I forgot to mentioned it has torizon axle as well.


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This is my current hauling set up.
This trailer was custom built in
2018 to my specifications.

I have always utilized the first generation Ford 7.3 PSD
in an F350 2WD CC Dually platform for a tow vehicle.







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Wow, that is a beautiful combo!
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It seems to me that tying up that much money in an enclosed trailer for occasional use may not be a good idea. Is it possible to rent them?
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It seems to me that tying up that much money in an enclosed trailer for occasional use may not be a good idea. Is it possible to rent them?
There used to be a place that rented enclosed car trailers
in Southern California but I think they went out of business.

I think there is a place in Michigan that rents them.

If you are touring or going to car shows or swap meets
outside of your comfortable driving soon then an
enclosed trailer & tow vehicle is a necessity.

Or a good friend that has one …


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