Hot rod steering box

[3W Hank]

A friend brought me a Ford F-100 steeringbox today.

My idea has been use the std box but even if I'm more focus on look or older
ideas maybe if one stretch into the early 50's or before 55 both the F-100
box and hair pins might be something. Read its bigger than the F-1, but there is also the Hudsons.

One get ’new’ ideas and I has seen Dick Wades 3W 32. Cool car, has Okie axle,
hairpins and a Ford F-1 box.

The F-1 is 48-52 and the F-100 53-56 ( correct )

So whats the benefit use the F-1 instead of the F-100 in a 32 frame with FH.

I seen the input comes in from above on the F-100 ( as std 32 ) but the
F-100 it comes in under. I plan use the std angle vs dash.

How to get the 32 splines and use the 32 arm ?

[Ideucev8]

F1 steering box has the same spline as the 32, so you can use the 32 arm.
Phil

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by 3W Hank

A friend brought me a Ford F-100 steeringbox today.

My idea has been use the std box but even if I'm more focus on look or older
ideas maybe if one stretch into the early 50's or before 55 both the F-100
box and hair pins might be something. Read its bigger than the F-1, but there is also the Hudsons.

One get ’new’ ideas and I has seen Dick Wades 3W 32. Cool car, has Okie axle,
hairpins and a Ford F-1 box.

The F-1 is 48-52 and the F-100 53-56 ( correct )

So whats the benefit use the F-1 instead of the F-100 in a 32 frame with FH.

I seen the input comes in from above on the F-100 ( as std 32 ) but the
F-100 it comes in under. I plan use the std angle vs dash.

How to get the 32 splines and use the 32 arm ?

[deuce lover]

Using the F1 will change the angle where it meets the 32 column drop so that you will have to figure out. New Hudson style steerings are being made by Neal in CA. He is on here as well as the Hamb. Fits perfectly and alignment is perfect. My buddy in Scotland just bought one and had it installed.Another solution is a 1980's Land Rover steering but not period correct. Krylon32 on here has one by Neal in his 32.

[3W Hank]

Just check so far.
I still might go std 32. But it depends on style or how I chose some parts.
Think the F-1 are more common for hotrods they but get another angle.
I think I dont want a new case just reseach how to get a 32 arm on it ( for now.
One here in Sweden said this is the best after a Hudson.
Whats benefit of the Hudson.
Price is low and fresh on this one.

[rich b]

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Looks like the F-100 box in your picture has had the output shaft cut square to fit a Model A pitman arm along with most of the flange cut away.

[Tim Ayers]

Originally Posted by rich b

Looks like the F-100 box in your picture has had the output shaft cut square to fit a Model A pitman arm along with most of the flange cut away.

Agreed. F1/F100 sectors are splined. F100 also had a pinch bolt on top of the pitman arm.

[hotcoupe]

Whats benefit of the Hudson.
Hank, the benefit of a Hudson steering box in a '32 - '34 chassis is a roller sector, 17:1 ratio and the orientation of the worm gear and sector is the same as a stock '32 steering box.
Tom

[Krylon32]

Put one of Neal"s 37 Hudson boxes in my deuce pickup years ago and it drove great and steered easy. Worth the money.

[glennpm]

1932 original ratio is 13:1.
Early '33s also had 13:1 but were then changed to 15:1 for the balance of the '33s and '34s. The 15:1 worm and sector pair fit perfectly in the '32 boxes.

The Hudson boxes have an 18:1 ratio as do the wonderful boxes that NealCA sells.

[3W Hank]

Yes this box has been in a A-Ford in La before.

I has a new set 34 worm, but this box F-100 is that 17;1?

-If I builed a new parts old shool hotrod I should call Neal direct.
All this old fuzz parts is a insane killer but its also fun.mi’m on the road, cant change it.
I saw one installed a 32 spline in F-100 on internet but not much info.

[32phil]

We have 5 of Neals F1 boxes in 32 fords. They make a tremendous difference in how these cars steer.
The F1 style box will take a 32 Pitman arm. It mounts the worm shaft under the sector, so it changes the angle of the steering column. The shaft winds up 1 inch lower from the original mounting point on the dash. This actually brings the steering wheel 1 inch closer to the driver's lap. I think it's more comfortable than a stock location.
The F1 box is definitely the way to go. If you get one from Neal, the flange will be modified to mount like the original 32 box using the stock holes in the 32 frame and you can order it with the provision to work the original light switch as well.

[3W Hank]

Neals F-1 is it old box or new cast ?
In this case I forward my look several times from prewar roadster to late 40 ’s 3w to get the 5W body and into 50’s.
If I go hairpins I can go F-100 but the F-1 sounds better if it drops collum 1” lower.
( I will use std collum.
I has all my Wings at Abbott’s in Portland ( so gauge is set ) and idea was to use my Hollywood panel. Its cool but some days it feel to wide ( vs change the 32 dash ) but if I like use the F-100 ( new flenge ) I can rotate it to where it will fit ( vs dash ) I dont like the gauges in a row.
So its about the dash issue to here.
Great look is the Aburn dash ( with panel )
I ask sine my buddy has this box over ( research for me.

[rich b]

Originally Posted by 3W Hank

Neals F-1 is it old box or new cast ?

New.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by rich b

New.

[glennpm]

What NealCA offers now is his own casting based loosely on a Hudson box.

[Ronnieroadster]

Hank if it was me I would simply use the F-1 box {I use them in all 4 of my Deuces} its much smaller than the F-100 and as others have posted the stock 32 arm fits perfectly.
An additional bonus of the F-1 box is the lower column location which is required if some how in the future you were to decide going to an ARDUN conversion which was designed in 1947.
Ronnieroadster

[3W Hank]

Ok make sense.
Thanks on all info.

[rich b]

Here's a picture of a F-100 box we put in a '32 that may help give you an idea of where it would live.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by rich b

Here's a picture of a F-100 box we put in a '32 that may help give you an idea of where it would live.