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Old 07-28-2021, 08:06 PM   #1
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Default Control arm seals fit issues

Little help please
1953 Customline Upper & Lower control arm seals.

Parts stripped to bare metal & painted
New seals purchased Dennis Carpenter.
Seals seem tight cannot install on the inside arms.
Any experience & guidance would be appreciated
Do they need to be trimmed?
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Old 07-29-2021, 08:24 AM   #2
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Default Re: Control arm seals fit issues

Do you have the chassis parts manual that shows how those seals fit?

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Old 07-29-2021, 09:02 PM   #3
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I have 1952 with 1953 supplement entire service book & illustration book & parts text.

Chassis section Chapter V describes seal installation however pictures are old & after many copies dark & zero help. Illustrations much clearer but don’t provide clear procedure or placement.

I took a lot of pictures during disassembly, but always seem to not be the exact area I am having difficulty with.

The new parts seem to be thicker rubber than original & not pliable to go into what I believe is correct place.
Any tips appreciated. Or source for different manual.
Although mine got to 800 plus pages
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Old 07-30-2021, 07:43 AM   #4
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Randy: I replaced all the rubber bushing in my 51 Mercury some years ago and used the red book below as a guide. The Ford and Merc part numbers are the same except the Ford numbers begin with 8A. Merc parts begin with 8M. The Merc suspension and spindle bolt parts are dimensionally larger. I recall it was not easy to install the rubber bushings but persistence did pay off. YOU DON" TRIM ANYTHING. I subframed the car later on so I can't take any photos. But, perhaps another Fordbarner can take some close up photos of their car with the bushings installed so that you can see how they fit. I still have some of the 8A rubber bushings left over as extras so if you need them let me know. I recall it was very frustrating but, you will figure it out.

Look at this photo. Different year but same idea.
https://stores.a-resto-parts.com/pro...BoCE8EQAvD_BwE

Zoom in on the photo in this ad and you can see how the rubber bushings fit.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/15389900737...cAAOSwO5Belzb4

Here's more photos that will help you figure it out. Once you do one, the rest are easy.
https://shoebox-central.com/1949-195...nd-bushing-kit

It might be a good idea to buy another 1952-53 ford Chassis Book. Look here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=1952...hrome&ie=UTF-8 Be patient. All the best. My thinking always is, "I can't be the first person to install these bushings, so if others did it, so can I."
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Old 07-30-2021, 05:08 PM   #5
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Try putting some Syl-Glide silicone grease on the inside of the rubbers. It will not harm the rubber and things should slide together much easier.
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Old 07-30-2021, 08:27 PM   #6
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Thanks for all the information you researched.

I gave it another try on the inner upper arm & was successful.

Still struggling with upper arm outer where spindle attaches. Pictures are unclear if seals are inside the “A”( pretty sure that is correct) however EBay pictures are missing clear view & parts in that area.

Going to give it a fresh start in the AM.

The pictures & links you provided helped.

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Old 07-30-2021, 08:31 PM   #7
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Thanks I had some silicone spray & that helped in one section.

Small amount is trick I believe
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Old 07-31-2021, 07:08 AM   #8
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On my Ford I moved the adjuster all the way to one side, put that rubber on then moved it as far as I could the other way to put the other one in......by the time I was done I used every bad word I knew and made up some new ones. A little lube and a lot of persistence.........Mark
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Old 08-02-2021, 09:16 PM   #9
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I found the seals that come with the new repo parts are wayyy off base from the factory rubbers and the NORS bushings. I tossed most of my "new" stuff in the trash and used 50+ years old rubber seals off ebay. fit right and looked right.

how somebody could to the trouble to make something so wrong is downright baffling.

And you are right, its an aggravating job to start with. Wait till you start to bolt it all up and not scratch all your new paint!
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