The Ford Barn

bobusnick104 · 07-11-2016, 08:23 PM

Barners,
I saw this on Craig's list and it caught my eye. I have a friend, recently retired and he is interested in my Model A's and may be ready for his own. Advertised as all original, if I didn't have so many projects I would look into it myself. It's in the Morgantown area of WV, a short drive. What would be your offer? Thanks for your opinion.

https://morgantown.craigslist.org/cto/5649015906.html

I hope the link is valid

700rpm · 07-11-2016, 08:52 PM

If I was looking for this model, I would think the price was close, at least in my area. And I might even buy it, with the following caveats: I would ask why they replaced the ammeter, and if they kept the original, and why the dome light has been removed. Do they still have the original carb and engine splash pans? Does it have original shocks and links? How does it sound and how does it drive? Is the glass all good? If original, it will be plate except the windshield. Low mileage originals are nice to have.

C26Pinelake · 07-11-2016, 09:18 PM

Obviously a drive on the highway will tell you more but I am thinking this is a fair price and I am usually lower on my Estimation than the majority. Wayne

Tom Wesenberg · 07-11-2016, 09:31 PM

Looks like a pretty nice survivor. Without driving it I can't say if the price is right, but if the steering, brakes and drivetrain all work perfectly then it's in the ball park. The instrument light wire needs to be moved up to the notch.

mhsprecher · 07-11-2016, 09:31 PM

Wow. Looks darned good to me.

eagle · 07-11-2016, 10:11 PM

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Thats a very good price for a slantwindow. It will NOT be perfect, will need lots of dinging, for crying out loud you will too when you get that old!

Pmsqrd · 07-11-2016, 10:13 PM

There only original once. Needs black walls. Love the pinstripe on the dash. Price is fair by California standards.

holdover · 07-11-2016, 11:03 PM

If I wasn't restoring a AA, I'de drive over and take a look. The asking price isn't too bad and it might be bought for less. Funny how those 100 dollar bills work.

DougVieyra · 07-12-2016, 01:40 AM

$11,500 is a good price by Northern California standards/values - IF it runs and drives well, and NO Fibreglass fenders. Looks like it is on a CraigsList post.

inex01 · 07-12-2016, 04:59 AM

Fair price and you just can not beat a slant window for comfort.... I really like mine

ronn · 07-12-2016, 06:49 AM

If I was looking for this model, I would think the price was close, at least in my area. And I might even buy it, with the following caveats: I would ask why they replaced the ammeter, and if they kept the original, and why the dome light has been removed. Do they still have the original carb and engine splash pans? Does it have original shocks and links? How does it sound and how does it drive? Is the glass all good? If original, it will be plate except the windshield. Low mileage originals are nice to have.

x2 probably can be bought for 10k, but the price is right.

burner31 · 07-12-2016, 09:11 AM

I paid 1/3 the price for mine (Murray), but then again it was not nearly as nice as this one.
Cash is king, with money in hand a bargain can be struck.
'31 slant town sedan is a very desirable model.

Special Coupe Frank · 07-12-2016, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burner31

I paid 1/3 the price for mine (Murray), but then again it was not nearly as nice as this one.
Cash is king, with money in hand a bargain can be struck.
'31 slant town sedan is a very desirable model.

I would particularly agree with Keith, in that cash in hand is critical if you plan to wheedle the price down.

Looks like a nice car, although with 41,000 miles on the clock, I wonder what kind of the shape the engine and running gear are really in.... hopefully as nice as the rest of the vehicle appears to be.

ronn · 07-12-2016, 09:59 AM

31 slant town sedan is a very desirable model

and yet, I see them come up for very reasonable prices and really no more then the rest of the sedans................. have to wonder why?

C26Pinelake · 07-12-2016, 11:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Special Coupe Frank

I would particularly agree with Keith, in that cash in hand is critical if you plan to wheedle the price down.

Looks like a nice car, although with 41,000 miles on the clock, I wonder what kind of the shape the engine and running gear are really in.... hopefully as nice as the rest of the vehicle appears to be.

I personally don't find 41,000 miles to be excessive! Wayne

bobusnick104 · 07-12-2016, 12:06 PM

Well it must have been a decent deal because it's sold!

Cool Hand Lurker · 07-12-2016, 12:59 PM

“If I wasn't restoring a AA, I'de drive over and take a look. The asking price isn't too bad and it might be bought for less. Funny how those 100 dollar bills work.

x2 probably can be bought for 10k, but the price is right.

Cash is king, with money in hand a bargain can be struck.

I would particularly agree with ****, in that cash in hand is critical if you plan to wheedle the price down”

YOU HAVEN’T EVEN SEEN THE CAR !!!
This is what is wrong with Model A guys and the big reason so many A’s get sold for street rods. If it is worth what they are asking then pay the price.

Anybody who calls on one of my ads and first thing he asks is “what’s the lowest you will take?” is not a serious buyer for MY Stuff. If they don’t want to take a look at it first or if they come and offer a low ball figure I just tell them to keep looking….. someplace else.

C26Pinelake · 07-12-2016, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobusnick104

Well it must have been a decent deal because it's sold!

Timing is everything, he who hesitates is lost! Wayne

mike657894 · 07-12-2016, 03:03 PM

isnt that body tag in the wrong location. mine is under the floor board on my briggs

Special Coupe Frank · 07-12-2016, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool Hand Lurker

“If I wasn't restoring a AA, I'de drive over and take a look. The asking price isn't too bad and it might be bought for less. Funny how those 100 dollar bills work.

x2 probably can be bought for 10k, but the price is right.

Cash is king, with money in hand a bargain can be struck.

I would particularly agree with ****, in that cash in hand is critical if you plan to wheedle the price down”

YOU HAVEN’T EVEN SEEN THE CAR !!!
This is what is wrong with Model A guys and the big reason so many A’s get sold for street rods. If it is worth what they are asking then pay the price.

Anybody who calls on one of my ads and first thing he asks is “what’s the lowest you will take?” is not a serious buyer for MY Stuff. If they don’t want to take a look at it first or if they come and offer a low ball figure I just tell them to keep looking….. someplace else.

I've been on both sides of the equation...

If I'm selling, I determine my bottom line, and set my asking price somewhat higher, allowing wiggle room. If easing a bit on the price means closing the deal w/o me losing money, ok. If I don't "need" to sell the piece and it's not costing me anything to wait for my price, then I can wait. By the same token, I don't care for low-ballers or tire-kickers, and if I feel that's what I'm dealing with, then the price firms-up real quick or I tell them to move along.

If I'm buying, unless the price is ridiculously low, I'm going to try to bargain a bit. May or may not produce results. But an offer should not be such a low-ball number as to be offensive to the seller, unless the item in question is truly a worthless pile of junk (which does not seem to be the case with this slant window).

If you have serious intentions of purchasing the vehicle, then have cash in hand, or a certified check ready before you start trying to talk the seller down, and get a bill of sale. Too often, when the buyer "has to come back with the money", the seller has changed their mind.

If you don't have the ready cash, don't waste the seller's time.

Sadly, with the advent of e-Bay, and Barrett-Jackson, American Pickers, etc., any/every old thing is "very rare and priceless", regardless of condition.

As for "so many Model A's being sold to rodders"... well, many of them (rodders) seem to have a fair amount of disposable money and will pay the asking price for a nice car.

Keith True · 07-12-2016, 04:01 PM

I have sold quite a bit of stuff,and a lot that belonged to other people because they didn't want to deal with buyers.On Model A's and British bikes I set the price,and that is it.I drive my stake in the sand and stay right there.Cash doesn't melt me down into a puddle,I don't drool and get weak minded at the sight of it.British bike guys,(and A guys)will stand around picking on piddling little things,trying to chisel the price.At some point you have to pay them to haul the car or bike off.I really think the internet has done it.In the last 10 years some people have gotten downright insulting.They've learned things like,negotiating points,or,never pay the asking price.I had a nice 30 Coupe here for a friend that wanted 10K out of it.A little gang of A guys were going over it,they were writing down all the things it needed,then presented me with the list of about 150 things wrong.It was a nice driver,not a correct restored car.They decided it was worth $3500.Something hit me in the head,it was a paper airplane made out of a check.A street rod guy was waiting for the A guys to get done,after all they were first in line and had first chance.When he heard the $3500.offer he sailed the check at me.I offered them the chance to match it,but the rod guy got it.It is running around now with a flat V8 in it.

jthomas6 · 07-12-2016, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith True

I had a nice 30 Coupe here for a friend that wanted 10K out of it.A little gang of A guys were going over it,they were writing down all the things it needed,then presented me with the list of about 150 things wrong.It was a nice driver,not a correct restored car.They decided it was worth $3500.

I had that type of action (not quite as bad) when I put my 28 Roadster up for sale recently. I would tell them 'It's not perfect - if it didn't have those little things wrong with it, I would have put the price higher.'

Actually I told them everything that I knew was wrong.
I sold it locally (no advertising - other than a sign on it at a car show) in three weeks. The buyer actually looked at it on it's first day on the market, said he 'had to talk to his wife.'

Forgot all about him. Three weeks later he called me on his way back down from a Car Show up north (saw what he could get for that price) - said he had money in hand, bring it over.

brum1 · 07-12-2016, 05:55 PM

if run and drives, I would suggest buy for that money

Capt Quahog · 07-12-2016, 06:39 PM

Great original "deluxe" edition of a flagship model of the Model A Ford line. Super hard to find a car like that these days. About the only thing I'd do to that car would be to get rid of the white wall tires and put on black walls. Drive and enjoy as is . . .

Mitch//pa · 07-12-2016, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Quahog

Great original "deluxe" edition of a flagship model of the Model A Ford line. Super hard to find a car like that these days. About the only thing I'd do to that car would be to get rid of the white wall tires and put on black walls. Drive and enjoy as is . . .

Cap
U Forgot one more thing you would need to do

Special Coupe Frank · 07-13-2016, 07:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith True

I have sold quite a bit of stuff,and a lot that belonged to other people because they didn't want to deal with buyers.On Model A's and British bikes I set the price,and that is it.I drive my stake in the sand and stay right there.Cash doesn't melt me down into a puddle,I don't drool and get weak minded at the sight of it.British bike guys,(and A guys)will stand around picking on piddling little things,trying to chisel the price.At some point you have to pay them to haul the car or bike off.I really think the internet has done it.In the last 10 years some people have gotten downright insulting.They've learned things like,negotiating points,or,never pay the asking price.I had a nice 30 Coupe here for a friend that wanted 10K out of it.A little gang of A guys were going over it,they were writing down all the things it needed,then presented me with the list of about 150 things wrong.It was a nice driver,not a correct restored car.They decided it was worth $3500.Something hit me in the head,it was a paper airplane made out of a check.A street rod guy was waiting for the A guys to get done,after all they were first in line and had first chance.When he heard the $3500.offer he sailed the check at me.I offered them the chance to match it,but the rod guy got it.It is running around now with a flat V8 in it.

Keith,

Illustrative, if sad, story about the Coupe.

I was taught decades before the internet "never to pay asking price" (unless it's an undisputable bargain as-priced), and that the "list of deficiencies" is more of a tool for you the buyer to set a ceiling, rather than an active bargaining tool with the seller (I've tried it that why, thinking I was being rational and "fair" to the seller, but it usually just made them mad...)

A few times, I've made a counter-offer, and if declined, left my contact info with the seller with the request to "be in touch if something changes"... that has brought favorable results a few times.

It is my observation that Model A guys can be a "thrifty" bunch sometimes (myself included)... many of us do not have deep pockets, and for the most part, the Model A Ford is still the cheapest option for a car from that era...

The '31 Slant that started the thread looked like a very respectable example, and was probably fairly priced, if the mechanicals were in comparable condition to the cosmetics... it must have been okay if it is gone.

SC Frank

Keith True · 07-13-2016, 09:53 AM

I bought my roadster in 02 because the A guys that had looked at it kept trying to lowball the seller.It wasn't running,had sat since 72 in a dry cellar,was rock solid and had 31000 miles on it.The chiselers started in and got nowhere.The owner knew what he had,and was going to wait for the right buyer.I looked,paid,and am still driving it.I don't get mad at people,some just don't know any better and have no idea they are insulting people.I am still polite to them,they might come back,or just decide to pay the price.The ones I really pay no attention to are the ones that call me and say,you've had that up to sell for three months now,it's time to drop the price and sell it to me.I usually say,if it don't sell in a few more years I'll think about dropping the price.For the class of A's I work around I have truly found that the street rodders set the prices.What seems to happen is a guy sells his old Mustang,or Camaro,to build a rod.The first thing they do is go out and buy the most solid old car,usually an A,they can find to build from.Some will try to justify it to themselves by saying they will sell the running gear and other parts and get a lot of their money back,but after looking at the extra parts for a couple of years they tend to just unload the leftovers.

07-11-2016, 08:23 PM	#1
bobusnick104 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: SW PA Posts: 87	What's it worth? Barners, I saw this on Craig's list and it caught my eye. I have a friend, recently retired and he is interested in my Model A's and may be ready for his own. Advertised as all original, if I didn't have so many projects I would look into it myself. It's in the Morgantown area of WV, a short drive. What would be your offer? Thanks for your opinion. https://morgantown.craigslist.org/cto/5649015906.html I hope the link is valid __________________ It's only money, we'll make more tomorrow.

07-11-2016, 08:52 PM	#2
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 5,906	Re: What's it worth? If I was looking for this model, I would think the price was close, at least in my area. And I might even buy it, with the following caveats: I would ask why they replaced the ammeter, and if they kept the original, and why the dome light has been removed. Do they still have the original carb and engine splash pans? Does it have original shocks and links? How does it sound and how does it drive? Is the glass all good? If original, it will be plate except the windshield. Low mileage originals are nice to have. __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole. Last edited by 700rpm; 07-11-2016 at 11:28 PM.

07-11-2016, 09:18 PM	#3
C26Pinelake BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Michigan / Ontario border, Sarnia, Ontario. 50 miles from Detroit and 150 from Toronto. Posts: 5,800	Re: What's it worth? Obviously a drive on the highway will tell you more but I am thinking this is a fair price and I am usually lower on my Estimation than the majority. Wayne Last edited by C26Pinelake; 07-12-2016 at 06:11 AM.

07-11-2016, 09:31 PM	#4
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: What's it worth? Looks like a pretty nice survivor. Without driving it I can't say if the price is right, but if the steering, brakes and drivetrain all work perfectly then it's in the ball park. The instrument light wire needs to be moved up to the notch.

07-11-2016, 09:31 PM	#5
mhsprecher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Takoma Park, MD Posts: 2,817	Re: What's it worth? Wow. Looks darned good to me.

07-11-2016, 10:11 PM	#6
eagle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Eagle Bend, MN Posts: 2,025	Re: What's it worth? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Thats a very good price for a slantwindow. It will NOT be perfect, will need lots of dinging, for crying out loud you will too when you get that old! __________________ "There are some that can destroy an anvil with a teaspoon and shouldn't be allowed to touch anything resembling a tool."

07-11-2016, 10:13 PM	#7
Pmsqrd Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 216	Re: What's it worth? There only original once. Needs black walls. Love the pinstripe on the dash. Price is fair by California standards.

07-11-2016, 11:03 PM	#8
holdover Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: SW Virginia near the Blue ridge Parkway Posts: 674	Re: What's it worth? If I wasn't restoring a AA, I'de drive over and take a look. The asking price isn't too bad and it might be bought for less. Funny how those 100 dollar bills work.

07-12-2016, 01:40 AM	#9
DougVieyra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Eureka, California Posts: 1,716	Re: What's it worth? $11,500 is a good price by Northern California standards/values - IF it runs and drives well, and NO Fibreglass fenders. Looks like it is on a CraigsList post.

07-12-2016, 04:59 AM	#10
inex01 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Rockville, Maryland Posts: 350	Re: What's it worth? Fair price and you just can not beat a slant window for comfort.... I really like mine __________________ Chuck McDonald, Member of AACA, Model A Club, NRA

07-12-2016, 06:49 AM	#11
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 6,794	Re: What's it worth? If I was looking for this model, I would think the price was close, at least in my area. And I might even buy it, with the following caveats: I would ask why they replaced the ammeter, and if they kept the original, and why the dome light has been removed. Do they still have the original carb and engine splash pans? Does it have original shocks and links? How does it sound and how does it drive? Is the glass all good? If original, it will be plate except the windshield. Low mileage originals are nice to have. x2 probably can be bought for 10k, but the price is right.

07-12-2016, 09:11 AM	#12
burner31 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Shawnee, Ok Posts: 3,471	Re: What's it worth? I paid 1/3 the price for mine (Murray), but then again it was not nearly as nice as this one. Cash is king, with money in hand a bargain can be struck. '31 slant town sedan is a very desirable model. __________________ Keith Shawnee OK '31 SW 160-B

07-12-2016, 09:59 AM	#14
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 6,794	Re: What's it worth? 31 slant town sedan is a very desirable model and yet, I see them come up for very reasonable prices and really no more then the rest of the sedans................. have to wonder why?

07-12-2016, 12:06 PM	#16
bobusnick104 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: SW PA Posts: 87	Re: What's it worth? Well it must have been a decent deal because it's sold! __________________ It's only money, we'll make more tomorrow.

07-12-2016, 12:59 PM	#17
Cool Hand Lurker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Minn Posts: 1,565	Re: What's it worth? “If I wasn't restoring a AA, I'de drive over and take a look. The asking price isn't too bad and it might be bought for less. Funny how those 100 dollar bills work. x2 probably can be bought for 10k, but the price is right. Cash is king, with money in hand a bargain can be struck. I would particularly agree with ****, in that cash in hand is critical if you plan to wheedle the price down” YOU HAVEN’T EVEN SEEN THE CAR !!! This is what is wrong with Model A guys and the big reason so many A’s get sold for street rods. If it is worth what they are asking then pay the price. Anybody who calls on one of my ads and first thing he asks is “what’s the lowest you will take?” is not a serious buyer for MY Stuff. If they don’t want to take a look at it first or if they come and offer a low ball figure I just tell them to keep looking….. someplace else.

07-12-2016, 03:03 PM	#19
mike657894 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Bay City Michigan Posts: 1,050	Re: What's it worth? isnt that body tag in the wrong location. mine is under the floor board on my briggs

07-12-2016, 04:01 PM	#21
Keith True Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Epping N.H. Posts: 2,990	Re: What's it worth? I have sold quite a bit of stuff,and a lot that belonged to other people because they didn't want to deal with buyers.On Model A's and British bikes I set the price,and that is it.I drive my stake in the sand and stay right there.Cash doesn't melt me down into a puddle,I don't drool and get weak minded at the sight of it.British bike guys,(and A guys)will stand around picking on piddling little things,trying to chisel the price.At some point you have to pay them to haul the car or bike off.I really think the internet has done it.In the last 10 years some people have gotten downright insulting.They've learned things like,negotiating points,or,never pay the asking price.I had a nice 30 Coupe here for a friend that wanted 10K out of it.A little gang of A guys were going over it,they were writing down all the things it needed,then presented me with the list of about 150 things wrong.It was a nice driver,not a correct restored car.They decided it was worth $3500.Something hit me in the head,it was a paper airplane made out of a check.A street rod guy was waiting for the A guys to get done,after all they were first in line and had first chance.When he heard the $3500.offer he sailed the check at me.I offered them the chance to match it,but the rod guy got it.It is running around now with a flat V8 in it.

07-12-2016, 05:55 PM	#23
brum1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Raynham, Mass. Posts: 583	Re: What's it worth? if run and drives, I would suggest buy for that money __________________ "no one knows more than everyone"

07-12-2016, 06:39 PM	#24
Capt Quahog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Barren windswept mountain somewhere in bleak Northeastern Pennsylvania Posts: 294	Re: What's it worth? Great original "deluxe" edition of a flagship model of the Model A Ford line. Super hard to find a car like that these days. About the only thing I'd do to that car would be to get rid of the white wall tires and put on black walls. Drive and enjoy as is . . .

07-13-2016, 09:53 AM	#27
Keith True Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Epping N.H. Posts: 2,990	Re: What's it worth? I bought my roadster in 02 because the A guys that had looked at it kept trying to lowball the seller.It wasn't running,had sat since 72 in a dry cellar,was rock solid and had 31000 miles on it.The chiselers started in and got nowhere.The owner knew what he had,and was going to wait for the right buyer.I looked,paid,and am still driving it.I don't get mad at people,some just don't know any better and have no idea they are insulting people.I am still polite to them,they might come back,or just decide to pay the price.The ones I really pay no attention to are the ones that call me and say,you've had that up to sell for three months now,it's time to drop the price and sell it to me.I usually say,if it don't sell in a few more years I'll think about dropping the price.For the class of A's I work around I have truly found that the street rodders set the prices.What seems to happen is a guy sells his old Mustang,or Camaro,to build a rod.The first thing they do is go out and buy the most solid old car,usually an A,they can find to build from.Some will try to justify it to themselves by saying they will sell the running gear and other parts and get a lot of their money back,but after looking at the extra parts for a couple of years they tend to just unload the leftovers.