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Old 01-23-2018, 01:39 PM   #1
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Default '32 3W window glass and door seal question

All --

Thanks in advance for your help.

I have a '32 3W coupe. I have made glass templates out of 1/4" masonite (luan), and have installed them in the car with the window channels, glass channel, rubber setting channel and window regulator. I made the glass template so its bottom edge is 1-1/2" below the window opening.

I have attached a picture showing my question. The glass sits in the metal and rubber channel with the rubber lip towards the outside of the car. When the glass is all the way up, the rubber lip is well below the body structure.

On original Ford cars, is the rubber lip supposed to push up against the body structure to create a seal? If not, did Henry install some other kind of weather strip to create a seal?

Thanks much for your help and insights!!

Richard
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:35 PM   #2
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Superceded. See below.

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Old 01-24-2018, 11:46 AM   #3
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Default Re: '32 3W window glass and door seal question

Thanks, DavidG.

I have a follow-up question. The garnish molding -- as I think of it -- is on the inside of the car. Is there some kind of "garnish" or trim molding on the outside of the car on the bottom edge of the window opening? I'm having a hard time visualizing your suggestions. Does anyone have a picture?

Thanks again, I always appreciate your insights!!
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Old 01-24-2018, 11:55 AM   #4
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Default Re: '32 3W window glass and door seal question

Garnish molding is on the inside, it is the trim around the windows on the inside. I have never seen a car with garnish molding on the outside, it may exist, but I have never seen it.
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Old 01-24-2018, 01:30 PM   #5
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So much for that senior moment. I will attempt to delete what I wrote above. It is incorrect as JSeery has tactfully implied. The part about your glass likely being too tall is correct, but the seal does not nest against the garnish moulding as that is on the inside of the glass, not on the outside of the glass as I wrote. The rubber lip should nest against the inner door panel (body structure). Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 01-24-2018, 04:07 PM   #6
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hey, smarty pants you forgot to mention the rubber bumpers on the garnish moldings that prevent glass to metal contact
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Old 01-24-2018, 05:06 PM   #7
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Why would I as those aren't what he asked about?
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Old 01-24-2018, 05:18 PM   #8
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Ooooo K just thought since we were in the neighborhood
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Old 01-24-2018, 07:54 PM   #9
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Thanks everyone!! Doing this for the first time is made MUCH easier with all the great knowledge and perspectives.
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Old 01-24-2018, 08:25 PM   #10
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On some cars like a 34 if the glass is to tall the two arms cannot come together to fit into the track at the top
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Old 01-24-2018, 10:14 PM   #11
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What will the kids do when those who knew the cars 'as built' are all gone?
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Old 01-24-2018, 11:01 PM   #12
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I was just having this conversation with my wife tonight. Hopefully forums like this will be maintained in the future and add to our human knowledge. But that only works if we pass along the love of these old machines to our grandkids and other young people so there is future demand for the knowledge.

I recently completed a website that shows all car magazines from 1945 to 1975. 3,500 images. I'm already thinking about where all this information goes at my death.
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Old 01-24-2018, 11:24 PM   #13
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The more that is recorded and shared, the more that will survive. The tough-to-answer question is will the interest be there to look at, read, and learn from that which is left behind.
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Old 07-14-2019, 09:56 AM   #14
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Do you have any photos of where those go? I have a new brookville body and it has no provisions for those. The small ones boxcar Tom posted pics of
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Don3527 -- Are you asking for pics of the rubber bumpers that go on the garnish moldings? If so, I chose not to install them as I didn't seem to need them. Richard
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Old 07-14-2019, 12:36 PM   #16
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If you don't install them there is a chance that the glass will rattle, especially when the window is down and the rubber lip in the glass channel will not be preventing side-to-side movement.
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Old 07-15-2019, 07:36 AM   #17
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There are 12 of these small bumpers in the window channel kit, 6 have a rounded top and 6 have a tapered top. I'm told half go on the door and the other ones go on the garnish. I can't see the glass hitting the garnish as the felt channels seem to prevent that from happening. However, if they're supposed to be there, I'd like to install them. I'm assuming there's supposed to be about a 1" long slot for them to install but I have no idea where these slots should be cut in.
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Old 07-15-2019, 10:36 AM   #18
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Don,


I don't have a photo of the back side of the molding to show the slots, but I've attached a couple of photos where the bumpers appear to give you a general idea of their location. My recollection, confirmed by the photos, is that there are three per door molding spaced equally.
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