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03-06-2022, 05:43 PM | #1 |
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Front/Rear Lights,Brake Lights, and Horn Stopped Working
Hi All,
I came back from a drive last week and all lights were working and the horn. Went to drive today and I have no front or rear lights. No brake lights. No horn and no running lights. But the car starts and runs just fine. Inside dash and dome light do work. I’m confused on what’s happening and where to actually start troubleshooting. Electrical is the worst for me even though this is a simple wire harness. May I get some advice on where to start to troubleshoot. Thank you, Denny |
03-06-2022, 05:49 PM | #2 |
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Re: Front/Rear Lights,Brake Lights, and Horn Stopped Working
You'll want to check the yellow with black wire coming from the terminal box to the generator cut-out, and then the yellow wires coming from the generator cut-out to the horn / light switch.
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03-06-2022, 05:50 PM | #3 |
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Re: Front/Rear Lights,Brake Lights, and Horn Stopped Working
the power source for your horn and lights originates at the generator cutout and runs to the light switch at the base of the steering column. Did this wire come loose from the cutout? In not, then check to see if there is power to the light switch.
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03-06-2022, 05:55 PM | #4 |
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Re: Front/Rear Lights,Brake Lights, and Horn Stopped Working
I am running an alternator. Should i have 6v at my alternator with the key on/off?
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03-06-2022, 06:04 PM | #5 |
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Re: Front/Rear Lights,Brake Lights, and Horn Stopped Working
With an alternator typically the yellow wires are all connected together on the single alternator post. You should be able to get 6V there at all times in most configurations. I've found a handy resource for the wiring is this PDF:
https://www.mafca.com/downloads/Semi...ex%20Janke.pdf |
03-06-2022, 06:15 PM | #6 |
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Re: Front/Rear Lights,Brake Lights, and Horn Stopped Working
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03-06-2022, 06:50 PM | #7 |
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Re: Front/Rear Lights,Brake Lights, and Horn Stopped Working
Your ammeter could be open circuit. Try putting a jumper across the two junction box terminals to verify that.
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03-06-2022, 07:42 PM | #8 |
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Re: Front/Rear Lights,Brake Lights, and Horn Stopped Working
I put the jumper wire on and now all the lights and horn are working. So i have a bad ammeter that needs to be changed out?
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03-06-2022, 07:51 PM | #9 |
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Re: Front/Rear Lights,Brake Lights, and Horn Stopped Working
Sure sounds like it.
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03-06-2022, 11:50 PM | #10 |
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Re: Front/Rear Lights,Brake Lights, and Horn Stopped Working
30 amp meter?
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03-07-2022, 10:21 AM | #11 |
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03-07-2022, 10:33 AM | #12 |
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Re: Front/Rear Lights,Brake Lights, and Horn Stopped Working
I'r recommend trying to find an original ammeter.
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03-07-2022, 10:57 AM | #13 |
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Re: Front/Rear Lights,Brake Lights, and Horn Stopped Working
In post #4 he says the car has an alternator, it may need a shunt to go w/a 20 amp ammeter.
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03-07-2022, 05:57 PM | #14 |
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Re: Front/Rear Lights,Brake Lights, and Horn Stopped Working
I am running a 20 amp ammeter. It has worked for the last four years with no issues.
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03-07-2022, 06:57 PM | #15 |
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Re: Front/Rear Lights,Brake Lights, and Horn Stopped Working
The alternators (one wire) are connected to the battery through the amp meter. There should be voltage at the large alternator terminal all the time unless there is a battery cut off switch. The alternator has a diode bridge inside to keep power from feeding back through it. The horn and light switch are also connected at the alternator terminal so they are connected to power all the time.
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03-08-2022, 02:14 PM | #16 |
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Re: Front/Rear Lights,Brake Lights, and Horn Stopped Working
Thanks everyone. I will switch out my ammeter and see if this fixes my issue.
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