The Ford Barn

Lawson Cox · 07-01-2017, 01:16 PM

Gremlins.

Vic Piano · 07-01-2017, 01:32 PM

I think you might be right... Maybe I shouldn't park it next to a Studebaker...

VeryTangled · 07-01-2017, 01:33 PM

Steam? If it's not on the ground, or in the engine or rad or exhaust...

Vic Piano · 07-07-2017, 06:00 AM

Hi Jeff, I've been without internet, phone and cable TV service for the last three days (Florida storms)... but now I'm back. To answer your question, steam would still have to exit the engine for it to lose water. Someone had suggested putting dye in the coolant, to be able to see where it might be exiting. That'll most likely be my next attempt to solve the mystery... maybe this weekend... meanwhile, the Flathead fun continues.

flatmotor40 · 07-08-2017, 05:02 AM

Could be going out exhaust while you are running and you would never see it.Pressure test

Vic Piano · 07-08-2017, 07:58 AM

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I've stood behind the car with my hands at the exhaust pipes while the engine is running, with the throttle pulled out to emulate a cruising rpm and, no moisture is exiting... Today being Saturday, I'm planning to spend some time messin' with the '39 CS to see if I can determine what the problem is, and how to correct it...

adileo · 07-08-2017, 09:13 AM

Good luck.

After all these years, the flatty can still get you to scratch your head and make you think. It helps offset senior moments

it's the cars way of providing you marvel mystery oil for your brain.

Vic Piano · 07-08-2017, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by adileo

Good luck.

After all these years, the flatty can still get you to scratch your head and make you think. It helps offset senior moments

it's the cars way of providing you marvel mystery oil for your brain.

Yup, this car is really starting to aggravate me...

I just took her out for a run, got caught in a Florida downpour, pulled her into the garage and the overflow is pushing out foam... I did see some water on the top of the distributor, it was warm and had a faint odor of antifreeze... The rest of the engine compartment was wet as well, complements of the rain... Now I'm wondering if water is escaping from one or both water pumps at the pulley shaft...? Thankfully I've got a set of rebuilt water pumps so... maybe later today I'll swap them out... I am going to see if I can get some dye to put in the radiator first...

Vic Piano · 07-08-2017, 02:04 PM

I went to the auto parts store and got some dye to put in the cooling system in the '39 CS. According to the instructions, after the car is brought up to normal operating temperature (between 170 -190 degrees), any fluid leakage will be visible under a UV light... Following the instructions (which is normally what I do after every other attempt fails). I still can’t detect leakage from anywhere. I'm not having any fun...

Next step... gasoline and a match...

Time for a Car-B-Cue...

flatford8 · 07-08-2017, 03:22 PM

Ouch!!.... wow, your are pissed.....mix a cocktail, grab a snack, get a comfortable chair.... sit there and stare at for awhile...... either the solution will come to you or you'll scare into straightening out on its own..... I hope you get it fixed... Mark

Vic Piano · 07-08-2017, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by flatford8

Ouch!!.... wow, your are pissed.....mix a cocktail, grab a snack, get a comfortable chair.... sit there and stare at for awhile...... either the solution will come to you or you'll scare into straightening out on its own..... I hope you get it fixed... Mark

I'm going out to get a bag of marshmallows to roast over the fire...

V8COOPMAN · 07-08-2017, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic Piano

I'm going out to get a bag of marshmallows to roast over the fire...

WAIT...hold that match! This could save the frustration, and could easily be bolted-in over a weekend. DD

Vic Piano · 07-08-2017, 04:15 PM

LOL... Not with that early fuel injection... I'd rather have two leaky Carters on it...

V8COOPMAN · 07-08-2017, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic Piano

LOL... Not with that early fuel injection... I'd rather have two leaky Carters on it...

Smart move there........you just saved yourself $6-8K.......or more! DD

Vic Piano · 07-08-2017, 05:15 PM

I have a friend that has a '57 Pontiac Convertible with factory fuel injection... Much more trouble that a couple of Holly's sittin' on a Flathead V8.

jimalabam · 07-08-2017, 06:14 PM

Hey Vic: Time to get out of the garage, have a cool one and forget your problem for awhile, then at 3am you will awaken, study the problem, and devise a solution, Maybe even tomorrow at 3am. Good luck. Jim...

Vic Piano · 07-08-2017, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim/Alabam

Hey Vic: Time to get out of the garage, have a cool one and forget your problem for awhile, then at 3am you will awaken, study the problem, and devise a solution, Maybe even tomorrow at 3am. Good luck. Jim...

Thanks Jim... I'll let you know.

flatmotor40 · 07-09-2017, 04:48 AM

put a radiator pressure tester on it and it will tell you there is a leak

Vic Piano · 07-10-2017, 03:17 PM

I took a very enjoyable, albeit not topless, cruise this morning down to Sarasota to check out a '57 Ford F-100 for a friend of mine. I drove the '51 F-1 and it performed flawlessly... Maybe it cut me some slack because it's my birthday...

The engine temp stayed between 160 and 180 degrees, cruisin' at between 65 & 75 MPH on the highway and sitting at just about every traffic light on the secondary roads. Even better, the F-1 did not burn a drop of oil...

Best of all, my friend bought the[I] '57 [/I]F-100. I told him I'd be happy to drive it up to LI but, he didn't take me up on my offer...

The '57 is a beautifully restored vehicle and it drives like a dream. I know my friend will have many years of enjoyment with the truck.

VeryTangled · 07-10-2017, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic Piano

Maybe it cut me some slack because it's my birthday...

Best wishes from the worldwide Cigar City Flatheads support group!

07-01-2017, 01:16 PM	#2421
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: What I Did on My Lunch Hour Gremlins. __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

07-01-2017, 01:32 PM	#2422
Vic Piano Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 7,611	Re: What I Did on My Lunch Hour I think you might be right... Maybe I shouldn't park it next to a Studebaker... __________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge.

07-01-2017, 01:33 PM	#2423
VeryTangled Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: (Not far enough...) Outside of DC Posts: 3,387	Re: What I Did on My Lunch Hour Steam? If it's not on the ground, or in the engine or rad or exhaust... __________________ -Jeff H Have you thought about supporting the Early Ford V-8 Foundation Museum?

07-07-2017, 06:00 AM	#2424
Vic Piano Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 7,611	Re: What I Did on My Lunch Hour Hi Jeff, I've been without internet, phone and cable TV service for the last three days (Florida storms)... but now I'm back. To answer your question, steam would still have to exit the engine for it to lose water. Someone had suggested putting dye in the coolant, to be able to see where it might be exiting. That'll most likely be my next attempt to solve the mystery... maybe this weekend... meanwhile, the Flathead fun continues. __________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge.

07-08-2017, 05:02 AM	#2425
flatmotor40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 611	Re: What I Did on My Lunch Hour Could be going out exhaust while you are running and you would never see it.Pressure test

07-08-2017, 07:58 AM	#2426
Vic Piano Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 7,611	Re: What I Did on My Lunch Hour Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I've stood behind the car with my hands at the exhaust pipes while the engine is running, with the throttle pulled out to emulate a cruising rpm and, no moisture is exiting... Today being Saturday, I'm planning to spend some time messin' with the '39 CS to see if I can determine what the problem is, and how to correct it... __________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge.

07-08-2017, 09:13 AM	#2427
adileo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,772	Re: What I Did on My Lunch Hour Good luck. After all these years, the flatty can still get you to scratch your head and make you think. It helps offset senior moments it's the cars way of providing you marvel mystery oil for your brain. __________________ Thanks Andy 1952 F1

07-08-2017, 02:04 PM	#2429
Vic Piano Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 7,611	Re: What I Did on My Lunch Hour I went to the auto parts store and got some dye to put in the cooling system in the '39 CS. According to the instructions, after the car is brought up to normal operating temperature (between 170 -190 degrees), any fluid leakage will be visible under a UV light... Following the instructions (which is normally what I do after every other attempt fails). I still can’t detect leakage from anywhere. I'm not having any fun... Next step... gasoline and a match... Time for a Car-B-Cue... __________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge.

07-08-2017, 03:22 PM	#2430
flatford8 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Lyman,ME. Posts: 2,630	Re: What I Did on My Lunch Hour Ouch!!.... wow, your are pissed.....mix a cocktail, grab a snack, get a comfortable chair.... sit there and stare at for awhile...... either the solution will come to you or you'll scare into straightening out on its own..... I hope you get it fixed... Mark __________________ I'm thinkin' about crankin' My ragged ol' truck up and haulin' myself into town. Billy Joe Shaver

07-08-2017, 04:15 PM	#2433
Vic Piano Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 7,611	Re: What I Did on My Lunch Hour LOL... Not with that early fuel injection... I'd rather have two leaky Carters on it... __________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge.

07-08-2017, 05:15 PM	#2435
Vic Piano Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 7,611	Re: What I Did on My Lunch Hour I have a friend that has a '57 Pontiac Convertible with factory fuel injection... Much more trouble that a couple of Holly's sittin' on a Flathead V8. __________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge.

07-08-2017, 06:14 PM	#2436
jimalabam Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lee County Alabama Posts: 828	Re: What I Did on My Lunch Hour Hey Vic: Time to get out of the garage, have a cool one and forget your problem for awhile, then at 3am you will awaken, study the problem, and devise a solution, Maybe even tomorrow at 3am. Good luck. Jim...

07-09-2017, 04:48 AM	#2438
flatmotor40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 611	Re: What I Did on My Lunch Hour put a radiator pressure tester on it and it will tell you there is a leak

07-10-2017, 03:17 PM	#2439
Vic Piano Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 7,611	Re: What I Did on My Lunch Hour I took a very enjoyable, albeit not topless, cruise this morning down to Sarasota to check out a '57 Ford F-100 for a friend of mine. I drove the '51 F-1 and it performed flawlessly... Maybe it cut me some slack because it's my birthday... The engine temp stayed between 160 and 180 degrees, cruisin' at between 65 & 75 MPH on the highway and sitting at just about every traffic light on the secondary roads. Even better, the F-1 did not burn a drop of oil... Best of all, my friend bought the[I] '57 [/I]F-100. I told him I'd be happy to drive it up to LI but, he didn't take me up on my offer... The '57 is a beautifully restored vehicle and it drives like a dream. I know my friend will have many years of enjoyment with the truck. __________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge.