35 brake linkage disassembly

[CSArno]

Any suggestions on how to get this gem apart? I was able to get the pins out just fine. Was looking for ideas on how to get the shaft out so I can put new bushings in. The linkage arms are cast so I don't as heating with a torch will have a good result.
Maybe throw it in the oven now that I have soaked it in PB Blaster?? Wife would love that..

Thanks

[JSeery]

Are bushings available for the cross-shafts? I didn't think you could get them.

[JM 35 Sedan]

If the "rivets" are completely out, and the shaft/arms have no damage at rivet holes, the shaft should come out, maybe with a little light hammer.

I have never found the old/original type bushings for replacement. I use bronze bushings from McMaster-Carr. Most of the time I have found it necessary to replace the shaft as well. I machine new shafts from a standard size OD, CRS bar stock. I also install two grease fittings

[CSArno]

JM, would you be interested in making me a shaft and bushings? Its pretty sloppy..
Just found out about the bushings not being available... super..
I did get the rivets completely out. Tried getting it off with hammer and air hammer to now avail. Will let it soak awhile.

[CSArno]

I'm told that Early V8 Garage has a rebuild kit for the cross shaft assy.
I will post for sure if they do. Sounds like I'm not the only one with a sloppy cross shaft.......

[JSeery]

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I also understood that none were available and parts had to be custom made. If anyone knows of a source please post it!

[Newaygo Kid]

I bought parts for one of those 10 years ago from Green sales. I just seen the parts somewhere a week or two ago if I remember I will post it.

[Newaygo Kid]

Look in macs they list those bushings, I think GM is correct I made my shaft also, good luck

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by Newaygo Kid

Look in macs they list those bushings, I think GM is correct I made my shaft also, good luck

We are talking crossover and not brake/clutch pedal assembly correct?

[CSArno]

yes, we are talking the crossover assembly not clutch/brake pedal assembly. I have everything to rebuild that.

Spoke to Richard at Early V8 garage, he sells a kit to rebuild the cross shaft assy or will rebuild there. They are machining the parts.

[email protected]

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by CSArno

yes, we are talking the crossover assembly not clutch/brake pedal assembly. I have everything to rebuild that.

Spoke to Richard at Early V8 garage, he sells a kit to rebuild the cross shaft assy or will rebuild there. They are machining the parts.

Yep, that sounds right. I was referring to Newaygo Kid's claim MAC had the parts, I was sure you knew what parts you had!!!! I looked around quite a bit about 6 Mo. ago and could find nothing off-the-shelf for a 33 crossover and figured I would have to find a similar bushing/shaft or make one. I am well aware it is not a big deal to come up with the parts one way or another. Does Richard's "kit" work on the earlier crossovers?

[CSArno]

I'm not sure if it fits the '33. Give him a call 855-268-0325 or [email protected] he is very helpful and responds super fast.

[JSeery]

Thanks for the heads up.

[JM 35 Sedan]

Originally Posted by CSArno

JM, would you be interested in making me a shaft and bushings? Its pretty sloppy..
Just found out about the bushings not being available... super..
I did get the rivets completely out. Tried getting it off with hammer and air hammer to now avail. Will let it soak awhile.

CSA, sorry, but it would have taken me more time to get set up to do these again than you would have wanted to wait. I did several '35-'36 cross shafts maybe 10 years ago to use on my own cars. The bronze bushings I found were the correct ID, OD & length, they just needed to be pressed into place and have a final alignment ream/bore for a nice fit of the shaft, kind of like doing spindle bushings. The difficult part for me was making a fixture to precision drill the holes needed in the shaft where the arms are riveted.
If Richard Lacy is rebuilding these cross shafts, I am sure they are done very well based on my experiences with other assemblies for brake conversions I have bought from him in the past.

[CSArno]

Thanks John, I think I'm on the right track now with the cross shaft anyway.. You're right, itching to get the cross shaft in so we can get the fresh flatty and tranny in before the snow goes. Note the amount of snow in the picture..
Think we've got some time yet...

[oldandtired]

There were a few NOS complete assemblies in Carpenter's NOS department when I went there the last time...Been a year, but they were there for quite a few years before that as well.I had a NOS completely assembly for a 35/6 and another NOS one for a 37 that I sold within the past couple of years.

[JM 35 Sedan]

Originally Posted by CSArno

Thanks John, I think I'm on the right track now with the cross shaft anyway.. You're right, itching to get the cross shaft in so we can get the fresh flatty and tranny in before the snow goes. Note the amount of snow in the picture..
Think we've got some time yet...

Looking good. Always nice to post some pictures of your project in these threads as we are discussing issues. Makes if interesting to see what others are doing.

[NormC]

Attached is a "How To"

[CSArno]

Thanks for the great info Norm!
I have the gross shaft all apart. Takes some careful drilling and a few good soakings with PB then some careful hammer work to get the shaft out. I actually used my air hammer turned down and it rattled it out pretty decent.
The old bushings are another bundle of joy to get out. I ended up carefully cutting the bushing with a hack saw blade and peeled it out with a small cold chisel. Just waiting on the shaft and bushings to re assemble..

Thanks again,
Chris

[JSeery]

Good info, Thanks for posting it.