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C26Pinelake · 09-22-2010, 11:43 PM

My sport coupe did not come with handrails. I have bought after market with with brackets. How do I know where to place them, is there a designated spot ?
Thanks Wayne

Ron in Quincy · 09-23-2010, 12:00 AM

You don't need hand rails, these go on roadsters; they are used when the top is lowered and protect the body.

Ron

Tudortomnz · 09-23-2010, 12:59 AM

Well said, but it I bet they will still go on!

anut · 09-23-2010, 05:54 AM

i have a set on my sport coupt just for looks look at someones roadster to get an idea

MikeK · 09-23-2010, 08:33 AM

I guess those convertible top support brackets placed on a coupe would fit into the same category as fake Landau irons, if you like that sort of misguided oddity. The original function was to keep the rear top bow and glass from hammering a print into the deck above the rear lid. Likewise, a Landau was an external hinge with a knob at the knee to assist in top raising and lowering. Hub caps, white walls, cowl bands and Quails are useless ornaments, too. I must say, I just can't live without my hub caps.

C26Pinelake · 09-23-2010, 09:52 AM

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Thank you Ford friends, I think I get the message. I thought they were helping people in the rumble seat get in and out.
Thanks again. Wayne

Vern · 09-23-2010, 10:20 AM

Wayne, I would bet many of those "handles" get used for assisting folks in & out of rumble seats. Unless you put in some solid backing however, there is the possibility that overzealous handling might twist & bend the body panels eventually.

Kevin in NJ · 09-23-2010, 10:34 AM

A landau is lock for the top.

The hinge point of the landau iron is set through the center line of the end holes. The top has some compression on the landau when the top is up. The compression combined with the hinge point through the center line causes a positive lock in the up position.
My guess is the landau helps keep the top taught without stressing the over the door to the top of the cowl body arrangement. The top can do a lot to body alignment as the cowl is more flexible then you might think on a cabriolet. Your doors can be made seriously out of alignment with an improperly set up top.

JBill · 09-23-2010, 11:22 AM

The halfway point on the handles matches up exactly with the top edge of the trunk or rumble lid. It's been awhile since I installed mine, but I seem to recall that then they are attached parallel to and one and three quarters inch from the body seam.

C26Pinelake · 09-23-2010, 12:23 PM

Thank you once again. When I purchased the hand rails I also purchased the support brackets that go underneath !

Dan Baron · 09-23-2010, 02:33 PM

I see them all the time too. Never did like the look though. Like everyone else, found it odd that people were instaling those on coupes.

Jerry Parr WI · 09-23-2010, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeK

I guess those convertible top support brackets placed on a coupe would fit into the same category as fake Landau irons, if you like that sort of misguided oddity. The original function was to keep the rear top bow and glass from hammering a print into the deck above the rear lid. Likewise, a Landau was an external hinge with a knob at the knee to assist in top raising and lowering. Hub caps, white walls, cowl bands and Quails are useless ornaments, too. I must say, I just can't live without my hub caps.

To be correct those are roadster top props for the roadster top to rest on. Convertibles (Cabriolets) did not use them. On a Sport Coupe the landau irons are a decoration, on a convertible they are a structural part of the body.

Bjerg_Menneskene · 09-23-2010, 10:11 PM

I don't have measurements but this is a photo that kinda shows where they are on my coupe. Yeah they don't really belong on there, too bad its my car.

A-Jay · 09-24-2010, 06:29 AM

Bjerg, thats a great Pic. That reminds me of the Hand grab on the dash in a VW bug. The girls would on to when we were driving like squirrels in High School.
My coupe has them, they give rookies in the rumble seat a place to hold to. The prop wouldn't do much but they are there.

Bill Steiner · 09-24-2010, 09:28 AM

They where on my car when I got it. Make a good handle for rumble seat. I think they lohttp://www.flickr.com/photos/54056506@N05/sets/72157624990562562ok good. Bill

09-22-2010, 11:43 PM	#1
C26Pinelake BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Michigan / Ontario border, Sarnia, Ontario. 50 miles from Detroit and 150 from Toronto. Posts: 5,800	position of handrails in rumble seat My sport coupe did not come with handrails. I have bought after market with with brackets. How do I know where to place them, is there a designated spot ? Thanks Wayne

09-23-2010, 12:00 AM	#2
Ron in Quincy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Quincy, CA. Posts: 1,708	Re: position of handrails in rumble seat You don't need hand rails, these go on roadsters; they are used when the top is lowered and protect the body. Ron

09-23-2010, 12:59 AM	#3
Tudortomnz Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canterbury, New Zealand Posts: 1,242	Re: position of handrails in rumble seat Well said, but it I bet they will still go on!

09-23-2010, 05:54 AM	#4
anut Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 47	Re: position of handrails in rumble seat i have a set on my sport coupt just for looks look at someones roadster to get an idea

09-23-2010, 08:33 AM	#5
MikeK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Windy City Posts: 2,919	Re: position of handrails in rumble seat I guess those convertible top support brackets placed on a coupe would fit into the same category as fake Landau irons, if you like that sort of misguided oddity. The original function was to keep the rear top bow and glass from hammering a print into the deck above the rear lid. Likewise, a Landau was an external hinge with a knob at the knee to assist in top raising and lowering. Hub caps, white walls, cowl bands and Quails are useless ornaments, too. I must say, I just can't live without my hub caps.

09-23-2010, 09:52 AM	#6
C26Pinelake BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Michigan / Ontario border, Sarnia, Ontario. 50 miles from Detroit and 150 from Toronto. Posts: 5,800	Re: position of handrails in rumble seat Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Thank you Ford friends, I think I get the message. I thought they were helping people in the rumble seat get in and out. Thanks again. Wayne

09-23-2010, 10:20 AM	#7
Vern Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 575	Re: position of handrails in rumble seat Wayne, I would bet many of those "handles" get used for assisting folks in & out of rumble seats. Unless you put in some solid backing however, there is the possibility that overzealous handling might twist & bend the body panels eventually.

09-23-2010, 10:34 AM	#8
Kevin in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South East NJ Posts: 3,398	Re: position of handrails in rumble seat A landau is lock for the top. The hinge point of the landau iron is set through the center line of the end holes. The top has some compression on the landau when the top is up. The compression combined with the hinge point through the center line causes a positive lock in the up position. My guess is the landau helps keep the top taught without stressing the over the door to the top of the cowl body arrangement. The top can do a lot to body alignment as the cowl is more flexible then you might think on a cabriolet. Your doors can be made seriously out of alignment with an improperly set up top.

09-23-2010, 11:22 AM	#9
JBill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 702	Re: position of handrails in rumble seat The halfway point on the handles matches up exactly with the top edge of the trunk or rumble lid. It's been awhile since I installed mine, but I seem to recall that then they are attached parallel to and one and three quarters inch from the body seam.

09-23-2010, 12:23 PM	#10
C26Pinelake BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Michigan / Ontario border, Sarnia, Ontario. 50 miles from Detroit and 150 from Toronto. Posts: 5,800	Re: position of handrails in rumble seat Thank you once again. When I purchased the hand rails I also purchased the support brackets that go underneath !

09-23-2010, 02:33 PM	#11
Dan Baron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Seekonk MA Posts: 228	Re: position of handrails in rumble seat I see them all the time too. Never did like the look though. Like everyone else, found it odd that people were instaling those on coupes. __________________ All I want, is a little bit more, than I'm ever going to get!

09-23-2010, 10:11 PM	#13
Bjerg_Menneskene Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 15	Re: position of handrails in rumble seat I don't have measurements but this is a photo that kinda shows where they are on my coupe. Yeah they don't really belong on there, too bad its my car.

09-24-2010, 06:29 AM	#14
A-Jay Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fairfax, Va. Posts: 127	Re: position of handrails in rumble seat Bjerg, thats a great Pic. That reminds me of the Hand grab on the dash in a VW bug. The girls would on to when we were driving like squirrels in High School. My coupe has them, they give rookies in the rumble seat a place to hold to. The prop wouldn't do much but they are there.