Lucas Hub Oil,, my story,, rest of the story

[Patrick L.]

I haven't found much difference over the years with oils ranging from 140, 250, 600 and 600W.. The only 'clash' I get is on 2-3 shift[when warm] if I'm not very careful.. 1-2 and the downshifts are fine..
I put in the hub oil.. This monster is now virtually un-shiftable/un-drivable.. So until I get some more 600 this thing is out of service..

[Terry, NJ]

Following and researching Hub oil, I see that it's main property is that it's sticky. It was designed for the hubs on large trucks where losing a bearing could mean the loss of the wheel. Hub Oil doesn't readily leak and when it does, much of it clings to the bearing. It will get you home. With this in mind, I would suggest a lower level of oil in the transmission might be the solution. I would drain about 1/3 to 1/2 of it out. The remaining should be enough to give you the necessary lubrication and slowing the rotating gear for shifting. I think you may be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I have not used Hub Oil, but it sounds like it has some very desirable properties.
Terry

[V4F]

i use a combo of lucas / power punch . no troubles here ..............

[Patrick L.]

I drained the Hub Oil.. It was solid foam.. Put in the right stuff [250] and all is well,, again..

[Louis]

I drained the stright STP and put in the black 1500w from the vender, shift's ok.
Same as the STP.

[dumb person]

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Originally Posted by Louis

I drained the stright STP and put in the black 1500w from the vender, shift's ok.
Same as the STP.

Does 1,500w really exist?

[H. L. Chauvin]

For General Information on Lucas Hub Oil:


Never asked why or why not, but when recently asked, the Lucas Oil Co. Technician emphasized adamantly that Lucas "Hub" oil was "not" recommended by Lucas Oil Company to be added in any amounts to Model A Ford transmissions.

He reported that Lucas Hub Oil was specifically designed as a stop leak product, very sticky, with heavy mass, to stay on axle bearings & hubs in case axle seals failed & leaked lubricant.


Really no big deal -- printed oil manufacture's recommendations are always followed about as well as the cigarette manufacturer's warnings printed on the cigarette pack.

And ............ people will always smoke!

[Patrick L.]

When I talked to the Lucas people I was told it was a heavy fluid meant for bearings [ oilers] and transmissions and differentials just as the it states on their bottle..
Well, it performs terribly!! But,, thats not the first time I've wasted time or money.. And it probably won't be the last.. The good thing is,, I learned something..
I have never been a fan of Lucas products and was a bit reluctant to try it, but, someone said it worked well.. So....
The one thing I've learned over the years is if 10 experts are asked a question,, you're probably going to get 10 different answers.. So I usually learn the hard way,, experience..

[Terry, NJ]

Yes, and heavier than that! I used to fill vibration dampers that we made for military helicopters with 2000 wt oil. It took forever to pour and we had to let the units sit open overnight to get the air out.
Terry

Originally Posted by dumb person

Does 1,500w really exist?

[H. L. Chauvin]

Patrick,

Your profound respect for others & honesty in sharing your less than successful experience with Hub Oil is greatly admired. Few report failed products. We all learn from good & bad experiences, & from people who care enough for others to caution them on using today's ever changing advertised products.

My experience: After many years of specifying millions of very expensive products for a living, it became apparent that when calling manufacturer's for "serious" detailed product information, the inexperienced receptionist first tries to assist; however, when one begins to inquire about known product Federal Specification Numbers, the receptionists directs one to the Sales Department. The Sales Department person, interested in making a sale, implies for example, that all of their lubrication products work for "everything". As one begins questioning known product's ASTM Test numbers with corresponding known dates of ASTM Tests, salesmen direct one to their "Technical Experts". If one already understands the intricate details of similar products of their competitors, in less than 3 minutes one knows whether or not he is speaking to some inexperienced Rookie. If so, this is the time to let them know that you demand to speak to an executive manager, the CEO, or the Technical Expert who is too busy to answer phone calls. Usually works about 95% of the time.

Hope this helps.

[Louis]

[QUOTE=dumb person;440600]Does 1,500w really exist?[/QUOTE.

dumb person ,
Yes, Mike's "A" ford-able sells the 600w, 1200w and the 1500w for A model's, I don't think the "W" stands for the act. WT. though, But probley to make you think it does, It looks like black gooo, but it work's ok,
Kinda like a dirty STP .

[Patrick L.]

H.L.
Yep, it does.. Its that 5% that always seems to jump up and bite you in the fanny..

[Flathead]

Just wondering, but how about hub oil for the the notoriously leaky A steering box? I'm thinking of my unmodified 2tooth.

[1931 flamingo]

Flathead: Penn Rite steering box lube, available from Restoration Supply, Escondido, CA. They have an on-line catalog. About $14 plus shipping. Mine leaked out the 600w (avail from the vendors), the PennRite does NOT leak out. Orig box w/no mods.
Paul in CT

[Flathead]

Thanks for the tip!