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08-26-2017, 04:32 PM | #1 |
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lint on oil pump screen
Hi I pulled my oil pan on my 29 sport coupe and found what looked like lint plugging up the screen any idea how that much lint would get in oil pan? also put in 5 quarts oil after installing pan and oil level is just above low mark on dip stick. thought it held 5 quarts with completly emty pan
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08-26-2017, 04:42 PM | #2 |
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
That "lint" might be evidence of a badly worn fiber timing gear.
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08-26-2017, 04:46 PM | #3 |
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
Hi MrWarm,
The lint could well be the cotton reinforcing cloth from a decomposing , breaking up fibre timing gear on the camshaft. Otherwise there is nothing else inside the engine I can think of. But mechanics have been known to leave pieces of rag and pipe cleaners in the valve chamber etc by accident. Re the oil level, is your dipstick fully inserted right up to the finger ring?. Sometimes the two parts near the ring are sprung apart preventing it from going right down. SAM in NZ Last edited by SAJ; 08-26-2017 at 04:48 PM. Reason: Spell chequer changed a word |
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
any way to check condition of timing gear without pulling cover off?
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08-26-2017, 05:56 PM | #6 |
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Or, seeing as you already have the oil pan off, look upwards at the front. Or do you have the inspection plate type pan and this is where you are accessing the pump strainer from? SAJ in NZ Last edited by SAJ; 08-26-2017 at 05:58 PM. Reason: Spell chequer |
08-26-2017, 06:01 PM | #7 |
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
I have no inspection cover on oil pan the oil pan is off.if it was worn seems like it would be making some kind of noise. this motor is very smooth and quiet
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08-27-2017, 09:15 AM | #8 |
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
Maybe not the timing gear. Rather a spider got in somewhere and built a nest.
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08-27-2017, 09:46 AM | #9 |
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
The standard stock Model A Ford takes five quarts of oil for refill after engine pan is removed and than re installed. There is no other answer to that question.
As far as the lint question goes. I have replaced many timing gears, and cleaned many oil pans. I have NEVER seen anything like lint on oil pump or anywhere else in engine. Hopefully what every it was has been cleaned out. It is also a good idea to check timing gear on any engine with unknown history. Worn gears will effect the operation of engine. Easy to change. Enjoy your car. |
08-27-2017, 10:08 AM | #10 |
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
I had a rope seal come apart that covered the pump screen.
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08-27-2017, 12:53 PM | #11 |
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
I had the same sort of thing happen with a rope seal. It spread a surprising amount of lint that was eventually caught in the oil pump screen.
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08-27-2017, 04:18 PM | #12 |
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
Rope seal was my first guess. The final answer will be interesting. Pls keep us informed.
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08-27-2017, 04:50 PM | #13 |
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
Could it be that the last Model A owner was installing his oil pan in dim light or at night; and perhaps, he was, or was not drinking ..... and with or without a mild case of Senior CRS, he just forgot to remove his cleaning rag from the oil pan ...... one never knows about some of us Senior CRS Model A guys.
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08-28-2017, 02:34 AM | #14 |
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
The most likely cause is the fibre timing gear fretting .It could be a long ago changed gear and nobody thought to check the oilpump gauze as it is mostly obscured by the cover . This was a common fault with the English AF 3" bore engine they produce 28 BHP @ 2600 RPM and it seems the timing gear (Celeron) did not like the extra revolutions . The oilpump gauze looks like it is covered in brown felt and almost completely blocked . The engine stops when the worn away gear finally fails hopefully before the pump stops pumping !!! Check the condition of the steel crankshaft gear as well .
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08-28-2017, 03:09 AM | #15 |
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
I hate mice! Could have been a nest! I saved a block for foam 12x12x12 picked it up and felt a noise coming from inside. Out of the garage it went, that €ŁĄ! had spiraled into the middle of the block! Did I say I hate mice! They can and will build a nest anywhere the want
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08-28-2017, 05:29 AM | #16 |
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
thanks for all the ideas off what it might be. after cleaning all the lint off I cleaned it with gas and it looks like fibres from a rope gasket. everything looked good and all gaskets were in the block as they should be so I have no clue how it got there. bottom off pan was spotless. no build up off sludge.as far as the oil level goes it is an after market dip stick. would love to know how far does the dip stick go into the block after it stops. could be its not going in far enough.again thanks for the help. dont know what I would do without this site and all you fellow barners.
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
Mornin' B.H,
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
Once, Chuck found what looked like a piece of Paper Towel, stuck over the oil pump screen! STRANGE things happen???
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08-29-2017, 11:41 AM | #19 |
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
It is most likley from the rope seal, on one of my engines, the pulley sleeve had a big chunk broke out of it in a V shape, which chewed up the seal.
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08-29-2017, 10:28 PM | #20 |
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Re: lint on oil pump screen
Search for old threads on here about various dipstick lengths over the years. I found them researching my particular overfilling problem that was caused by the gallon jug of oil I bought actually being 5 quarts. It was properly labeled 5 Qt, I just didn't notice.
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