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Old 03-08-2014, 05:33 PM   #1
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I am overhauling my flathead for my car. I am running a 3.75 stroke .080 over USA pistons. I decked and bored the engine myself with the help of a master machinist. i need more parts to complete the engine. I will post more pictures of the engine block soon. thank you
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:01 PM   #2
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Look forward to your rebuild on the Ford Barn. Thanks for sharing. Gary
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:45 PM   #3
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thank you. The next priority is the valve train. I am getting new valves or nos Ford valves. i will post pictures of the valves, guides, lifters and clips as i get them. Here is an original valve marked "ford USA IS". this came from the engine originally which was rebuilt who knows when.
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Old 03-09-2014, 08:49 AM   #4
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You haven't said what the engine is, 59AB or 8BA style. The valves are 59AB style with split guides. If I was you I would install 8BA valve brain with straight stem valves and solid guides. Walt
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Old 03-10-2014, 05:59 PM   #5
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I machined the block myself with the help of a master machinist.
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Richard, that is cool, man. I bet you learned some stuff machining that block.
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:44 AM   #7
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i learned how to hone, and set up and true a Storm-Vulcan decking machine.
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The block looks nice. Interested in rest of rebuild.

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Old 10-20-2014, 01:36 PM   #9
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I need some 10/10 bearings, rings, balancing and a cam.
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:13 PM   #10
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I see this is an older post, but I would put bronze guides and stainless valves in it, now is the time!!

I would also recommend a "moly" ring pack, preferably a "light" one.

Some "Viton" stems seals wouldn't hurt either.

Drilled the lifter bores??

Thanks, Gary in N.Y.

P.S. Good luck! They run real nice when they're done correctly.
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:16 PM   #11
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i learned how to hone, and set up and true a Storm-Vulcan decking machine.
Comment on the decking, a flathead block really should not be decked because of how thin the upper deck is. Hope it was a very thin cut! Looks good, I love doing almost all of the work myself.
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I see this is an older post, but I would put bronze guides and stainless valves in it, now is the time!!

I would also recommend a "moly" ring pack, preferably a "light" one.

Some "Viton" stems seals wouldn't hurt either.

Drilled the lifter bores??

Thanks, Gary in N.Y.

P.S. Good luck! They run real nice when they're done correctly.
Hi Gary:

By stem seals are you talking about the ones that slip on and are retained with a spring or the larger ones that go around the guide like stock?

Thanks,

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i think i took off .008 off the top.
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nothing much to worry about.
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i was looking at a metric set of rings. The Hastings brand is still USA made, very high quality i believe.
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Why "metric" rings?
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By stem seals are you talking about the ones that slip on and are retained with a spring or the larger ones that go around the guide like stock? Thanks,

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Hi Tim, the stem seals go on the guides after machining top section .500"! (See the photo below, shows the bronze and the "Viton" seal)


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i was looking at a metric set of rings. The Hastings brand is still USA made, very high quality i believe.
You can only use "metric" rings if the pistons have been made to accept them, the pistons in your photo aren't for the "metrics"!

The "metric" ring packs normally consist of a 1.5mm top, a 1.5mm second, and 3.0mm oil ring. This is the combo Ross supplies with theirs, we also use a 4.00mm oil ring occasionally on certain builds.

The lightweight ring pack is worth a bunch of HP, but the block needs the correct ring finish. We also "block-plate" finish hone all the blocks we service, even the Flatheads (also in photo).

Thanks, Gary in N.Y.

P.S. Here's the bronze-lined guides, the "Viton" seals, and the block-plate for honing! We use the same plate as a fixture to "pin" the heads/gaskets to the block, like the SBC's. This procedure works really well and is all done by machine, not by hand. We are able to "pin" a block/heads today and pin new heads if necessary at a later time with no "fit" problem!
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Hi Gary:

Thanks. Makes sense.

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Old 10-20-2014, 07:19 PM   #19
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If you are looking for original Ford NOS parts, Jim at SFP in Rosemead CA has about 7,000 NOS 8Ba Ford guides. Fred at SSO has NOS Ford bearsing, cam gears and gaskets among other things. I also got some NOS engine parts from Ron at Dennis Carpenter, and Tom at Then & Now in Weymouth MA. No need to put foreign parts in your flathead when there is still original NOS Ford parts available.
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Don't forget to recon the rods. Walt
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