Rocky Mountain High Road Trip

[Old Henry]

Wife and her mother went out of town for the week to a Quilt festival so I decided to do a road trip with Pepe and Old Henry to Colorado. Here's the story with pictures:

Started out Thursday morning headed east up Provo Canyon. This was our first stop just 4 miles from home - Bridal Veil Falls with some fall color. (Where's Pepe?)



Then we continued East past Dinosaur National Monument near Vernal Utah - nothing particularly scenic there - and on into Colorado - about as barren of scenery as eastern Utah - until we got to Craig; then it started to get more scenic until Steamboat Springs. Climbing up over the mountain east of Steamboat Springs it was real perty but after a while the temperature gauge pegged past hot and the engine started to sputter so I pulled over to see what was up.

There was some steam coming out of the overflow tube on the radiator so I decided to open up the heater to get a little more cooling. It's a fresh air heater so I had to remove the panel in front of the radiator to get the air into the duct. I then turned the water valve on and turned the fan on. Immediately my battery gauge went to full discharge and I got smoke from under the dash. The wire to the heater fan had lost some insulation and was touching where it went through the firewall. Put some tape around it and got back on the road.



Got to the summit in about two blocks and headed down the other side. At first the engine cooled way down but then it went back up mysteriously while still going down hill. I figured I must have lost some water before I stopped on the climb so dropped into a grocery store and bought three gallons so I'd have some extras. Turned out I had to put all three gallons in; I'd really lost a lot.



I woke up in the middle of the night and lay there wondering what more I could do to keep the engine cooler. I'd had a problem with overheating a few weeks before and lost some water so I'd run Prestone Super Radiator Cleaner in the coolant for several hours of driving to dissolve any deposits there might be. Then I refilled with just water and anti-corrosive without antifreeze to see if that would help. Didn't much. I had high volume pumps and stock thermostats that were working fine so what else? Finally thought of removing the thermostats which I did the next morning and put a 10# cap on the radiator to keep the water in a little better at high altitudes that I would be climbing to. Couldn't think of a single thing more I could do to cool the engine better so headed on to Rocky Mountain National Park. (Learn more about the park here: http://www.nps.gov/romo/index.htm)

It was a beautiful drive up the west side of the park. It was a nice gradual climb on a newly paved road that got up into the deep green pines with bright yellow aspens in between.



As the engine temperature got above 170 I turned the heater on and it stayed well below 190 all the way up. Had to turn on the electric fuel pump as we climbed to overcome the vapor lock that occured at high altitudes.

Eventually the road got above the timber line where nothing much grew and went a long the top of the mountain.


(Where's Pepe?)


After taking that picture I was about to get back into the car when these two guys pulled up behind me in their car and jumped out and said they'd been following me clear up the mountain hoping to catch me and get a better look at the car. They were self proclamed "Car Guys" and had old flathead Ford's themselves. I put them in as a sampling of the myriad of "Ooglers" I had along the whole trip - most just honking and giving me the thumbs up when they passed me - which most did since I held my speed down to between 55-65 the whole way - but whenever I stopped the oolglers gathered 'round to get a closer look and tell about how their parents or uncle or whoever drove a car like mine when they were kids and the great fun they had in it. They especially loved when I told them my dad bought Old Henry when I was 7, I'd learned to drive in it, dated in it, and had owned it ever since. They loved the history of it.



We climbed from 7,935 - the elevation at Granby where we'd stayed for the night - over 4,000 feet to the top of the national park - 12,183 - the highest paved through road in the United States.

This is at the highest point of the road. I did a little climb up the hill to get this shot and was pretty winded from the thin air before I was done. The two old guys couldn't resist "oogling" at the car while I took the picture. Unfortunately, all of the forest fires in the area polluted what would otherwise have been the clear mountain air so we might have seen better further.



Heading down the other side without thermostats the engine cooled down to about 110 degrees. Not good to run so cold but better than boiling the water out on the climbs.

The drive was just as perty goin' down t'other side as it was coming up.



The total drive up over the top of Rocky Mountain National Park from Granby on the west to Estes Park on the east is 61 miles and well worth it.

From Estes Park headed south through Boulder then Golden to get on I-70 to head for Mt. Evans, the highest paved road in the United States at 14,240 feet elevation - 140 feet higher than Pike's Peak. (More here: http://www.mountevans.com/) We were very excited as we had planned on climbing that when we did Pike's Peak last year but ran out of time and had to just drive by the freeway exit to it.

We headed up Mt. Evans which was even pertier than the national park drive was.



DISAPPOINTMENT! After driving 14 miles up the mountain to the entrance/fee station we found out that the road to the top was closed for the season as of Labor Day! Our second strike! We definitely will try again. It's on the bucket list! Gotta go! It was still well worth the beautiful drive as far as we went. Just gorgeous.



We carried on west to Grand Junction where we stayed for the night. For you traveling with pets it sometimes is a little harder to find motels that will accomodate them but there is always some.

The night before when I'd turned on the heater fan for a little heat (it got cold outside after sun down) the battery gauge pegged to discharge again the the smoke started up from under the dashboard again so the next morning I replaced the old stainless wire that was losing its insulation with a new modern wire.

The next morning we went into Colorado National Monument by Grand Junction and drove through typical "Cars" movie scenery.



Just around that big rock is the entrance to the first of two very nice tunnels - just like in the movie.



Remind you of "Ornament Valley" from the movie?



Then we continued west toward Green River Utah. About 25 miles before Green River there was an exit to Thompson Springs which I'd never took. We were ready for a potty break so I took it. The gas station was right by the freeway but a road continued past that to what looked like a little town. I drove about 1/2 mile there and, low and behold, it was "Radiator Springs" from the movie complete with a motel that remided me of the abandoned "Wagon Wheel" in the movie. (For history go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_Springs,_Utah. To see more pictures I took of Thompson Springs go here: http://s1059.photobucket.com/albums/...son%20Springs/)



I got real lucky and, while I was taking pictures, the current owner of the motel came out and we talked. He was born in Thompson Springs 72 years ago. He'd helped his dad herd sheep when he was a kid and had to travel 37 miles each way every day to Moab to go to school. The motel was built in 1922 out of ceramic block from Italy transported to Thompson Springs via wagon to cross the Green River through a ford. It was on what was the main US Hwy 6 through town along with several other quaint, but long since abandoned, buildings. Even though I-70 passed the town by in 1970 the 10 room motel continued to operate until 1998. The current owner is considering reopening it or selling it. Current population of Thompson Springs: 28.

He told me that the old US Hwy 6 still continued west for 5 miles to Crescent Junction where I'd have to take the freeway to Floy then could get back on it clear to Green River. So I did. What a great nostalgic ride. Here's a short video if you want to see the live action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjM3I...ature=youtu.be



Even though it ran parallel to the freeway just 1/4 mile from it, it was actually 40 years from it going back in time.



From Green River turned north to home. Just before reaching home took a little side trip up Squaw Peak road, just 3 miles from my house, to Hope Campground and got a last shot of Old Henry with fall colors. Never saw any red trees in Colorado - just yellow aspens - until getting back into Utah.



Back in the driveway at home.

GOT BUGS? (in your teeth? up your nose?) Gotta love 'em.



Total miles: 959
Total gallons of gas: 82.76
Average gas mileage: 11.62 mpg
Total gas cost: $323.49
Average gas price: $3.90/gal
Gas cost per mile: $.33

What I learned:

1. With extreme needs for cooling it does make a noticeable difference to remove the thermostats - something I never believed before.

2. Running the heater for extra cooling is hardly noticeable inside the car with the cowl vent open.

3. You can only drive to the top of Mount Evans until Labor Day! All I had to do was a quick Google search before we left and I'da known.

4. You can find motels that will take in your pet.

5. No one else seems to drive their old vintage classic cars much. The only two even close I saw on the whole trip were 50's MG and Sunbeam.

6. Was getting a little pinging early on so tightened down the vacuum brake on the distributor to get rid of that. That brake only retards the timing at full throttle so I had to feather the pedal a little to keep from going all the way down and have that brake drop down and retard too much - lost power. Best power was just as much throttle as was needed to keep going.

7. All the trouble I had climbing Pike's Peak that I thought was too big of carburetor jets that I kept replacing with smaller ones wasn't that at all but was just plain old vapor lock. I drove to over 12,000 feet on this trip with the stock Stromberg 97 carburetor with the sea level .045 jets in it with no problem at all. Just had to turn on the electric fuel pump to keep the gas going at higher altitudes and engine temperatures.

Wanna see some more recent road trips? Here they are:

Yellowstone National Park in May 2012: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72864

Death Valley in February 2012: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62705

Pike's Peak in July 2011: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19141

Route 66 in April 2010: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57511

[tom/illinois]

Great post Old Henry. Beautiful pics. I have a '47 tudor can only dream of a trip like that. Did you have any trouble with your brakes in the mountains? Do you burn 87 octane or something more? I want to take a trip like that some day. Thanks for the post.

[Old Henry]

No problem with brakes. Hardly ever used them going down in low gear.

Used the lowest octane gas I could find but still tried for the "Top Tier" stations (http://www.toptiergas.com/) that have the higher quality fuel. Usually was 85 octane. There is no need for premium gas. It is no better gas, only reduces pinging in modern high compression engines. Does nothing for flatheads. You can run the lowest octane available and get as good of performance as with higher. I was getting a little pinging early on so tightened down the vacuum brake on the distributor to get rid of that. As you may know, that brake only retards the timing at full throttle so I had to feather the pedal a little to keep from going all the way down and have that brake drop down and retard too much - lost power. Best power was just as much throttle as was needed to keep going.

[gmc1941]

Great photos, beautiful time of the year for a long drive. I really envy you. Great state to drive though. Very lucky.

[gearhead1952]

I always enjoy your trips and photos. Thanks for sharing.

[Old Henry]

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Originally Posted by gearhead1952

I always enjoy your trips and photos. Thanks for sharing.

We took highway 93 from Boulder to Golden so got pretty close to where you live. Hope you're getting out and enjoying a fall drive.

Thanks for your response.

[Vic Piano]

Another outstanding "road trip", thanks for posting.

[Elmo Rodge]

I guess it's time for a trip to Fish Lake and maybe Mt. Nebo Loop for me. Wayno

[39wdy]

As always, wonderful pictures and delightful story. At least you didn't lose anything important this trip like the handle parts for your spotlight; however, I was getting ready to ship you some used radiator water cause I heard that you lost some of that. Oh, my wife says we shouldn't ship used water across the country because other drought stricken regions of the country might get jealous of our Vermont water and want to move here. I'm really not allowed to take photos here because our version of paradise needs to remain a secret. Keep those pictures and stories coming. Best wishes, Toby Lampert

[Henry/Kokomo]

Prof. - Gotta' admire your photography skills and your spirit of adventure. Loved the travelogue! Many thanks for posting.

[31chevy]

Your photo's are great, are you self taught?
Gary

[Old Henry]

Originally Posted by 31chevy

Your photo's are great, are you self taught?
Gary

I didn't think I'd been taught at all. If I am it's just myself. I don't really know much. I just take the picture that looks good to me, not much more than that. I do tweek most all pictures with PhotoShop - getting them level, cropping out distractions at the edges, lowering brightness and turning up contrast a bit as well as sharpness. That's about it. Kinda fun. Another little "creative outlet" for me.

[Old Henry]

Originally Posted by Elmo Rodge

I guess it's time for a trip to Fish Lake and maybe Mt. Nebo Loop for me. Wayno

Those are both fantastic rides. Have done the Nebo Loop annually for years. Fish Lake is gorgeous this time of year with the "Aspen Heart" on the side of the mountain. Have fun. Take some pictures to share.

[TomT/Williamsburg]

Great writeup and cruise - thanks for posting!

[peewee2you]

Old Henry, as usual phenominal.... you always make it seem so effortless with the story behind it, your photo's skills just come to life capturing such beauty with nature and Old Henry just gleams in every photo, where was Pepe? lol I missed him. Oh yes, I hope the Mrs. and her mother had an eventful outing as well.

[Old Henry]

Originally Posted by peewee2you

where was Pepe? lol I missed him.

Pepe's in the 1st and 6th picture. More obvious in the 6th than the 1st. See if you can find him.

[Old Henry]

Originally Posted by 39wdy

At least you didn't lose anything important this trip like the handle parts for your spotlight; Toby Lampert

Toby, every time I look at that beautiful handle for my spotlight that you sent me I thank you in my heart for your very generous contribution to Old Henry's welfare. Thanks again.

Originally Posted by 39wdy

I'm really not allowed to take photos here [in vermont] because our version of paradise needs to remain a secret. Toby Lampert

Flew to Vermont for a "Fall Colors" cruise many years ago. Rented a car and drove through the state for a day. I think I timed 45 seconds of sunlight the whole time we were there and we were a little late for the colors. Stayed in a cool bed and breakfast place though with an old cemetary in the front yard.

[pauldeborr]

Quote: "They were self proclamed "Car Guys" and had old flathead Ford's themselves. I put them in as a sampling of the myriad of "Ooglers" I had along the whole trip -"

Nice trip, but what does it take to be a real "Car Guy"?

[bige386]

Absolutely beautiful pictures there Old Henry. I would just love to be able to take a road trip like that. Thank you for sharing the pics.
The wife and I are going to be taking a road trip in the 46 next month weather permitting. We're hoping to get some nice fall color pictures. Ill post some when we get back.
Thanks again.

[Old Henry]

Originally Posted by pauldeborr

what does it take to be a real "Car Guy"?

It was kinda weird cause they felt the need to tell me that they were "Car Guys" instead of me reaching that conclusion on my own. (Often guys call themselves "Gearheads.") They sounded like real car guys 'cause they owned old cars except that one knew nothing of the Ford Barn and the other had just heard of it but not done much with it. For guys to claim to have "flatheads in everything I own" but not be an official "Barner" in my opinion lacks something from being a "Real Car Guy."

I actually did a bit of proselyting trying to convert them to discipleship on the Barn. They asked again the name of the site so maybe we'll see them on here. Would be funny if they saw their picture and identified themselves.

[2935ford]

Old Henry....I don't know to many folks that have as mich fun as you do on your great trips!

Thanks for sharing!

[Old Henry]

Originally Posted by 2935ford

Old Henry....I don't know too many folks that have as much fun as you do on your great trips!

Originally Posted by bige386

I would just love to be able to take a road trip like that.

Originally Posted by gmc1941

I really envy you. . . . Very lucky.

Originally Posted by tom/illinois

I have a '47 tudor can only dream of a trip like that.

Just posted the following on another thread in response to the same sentiments:

I think one of the very sad misconceptions that too many have about our old Fords is that they have somehow become fragile, weak, and brittle in their old age and could not possibly withstand the rigors of the highway like modern cars do. I must admit I had some of those feelings initially when I first restored Old Henry after he had slept for 31 years (like Rip Van Winkle). But, I soon came to realize that he was the same old beater car I drove in high school, including a lot of off road, and was still just as sturdy and could still be driven cross country just like his kind were driven cross country on Route 66 and many other cross country routes so many years ago. Sure, things break, probably more than modern cars. (My owner's manual grants only a 90 day warranty on the '47.) But, that's part of the fun if you like a challenge, which I guess I do - to be dead on the side of the road far from any garage or anyone that knows anything about your car and have to sit there and figure out what is wrong and how to fix it with just what tools and parts are in the trunk to get it back on the road. Calling AAA is an absolute last resort (although I've done it once but felt a total failure for having had to do so). It has often reminded me of Apollo 13 when they had a malfunciton out in space and had to figure out how to "Jury Rig" to fix the problem with just what they had on board. They couldn't "send out for parts." They just had to do it and they did. Times haven't changed much.

So, take the cold plunge guys. Load the trunk with your tools and whatever spare parts you have and go have some fun - "on the road again" (my theme song on many a road trip).

[Seth Swoboda]

Old Henry as many of the other guys have said, beautiful pictures and your sense for adventure is admirable. I wish we had such scenic places like you vist closer to me. What you have said about taking pride in fixing a roadside breakdown is an excellent point. Anyone can load up in a brand new car and drive across the country. We shouldn't get worried about taking long road trips in our early fords. We should take pride in driving them and in our abilities to deal with challenges and make repairs on the go. Keep drivng your early fords and enjoy more road trips like Old Henry does.

ps Tom/Illinois is my dad & Toby Lampert is one of the nicest guys I have met on the fordbarn. There are several nice guys here and I appreciate the help they have given me, but we should all try and be as nice as Toby.

[39wdy]

Old Henry must be the most admired early V8 on the Ford Barn as it really gets to witness some absolutely gorgeous parts of our country. Prof. you have given many of us a very positive goal for our own V8 experiences. I'm so sorry you had inclement weather on your foliage trip to Vermont, we do get rain here (last year's hurricane Irene was certainly a reminder as we will be dealing with the aftermath for many years into the future), but generally as only an occasional, necessary, and delightful occurrence. We are experiencing more heat, much more violent storms, and general unpredictability of our weather than ever historically recorded. However, we feel that we indeed live in paradise, so come back. Thanks to all for the kind expressions. Best wishes, Toby Lampert

[cuddles1]

Absoltuely stunning photos, beautiful; I just listed my place for sale!!!!!!

[Old Henry]

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Originally Posted by peewee2you

where was Pepe? lol I missed him.

This is the best close up of Pepe riding behind my neck on the back of the seat as he liked to do at times. Not a great shot but such as it is.

[Mike in AZ]

great pictures....just did the Rocky Mountain high road last weekend....beautiful....and all the elk in Estes Park....lol....i think i see Pepe at the middle waterfall??....lol...thanks for sharing....Mike

[Old Henry]

Originally Posted by bige386

The wife and I are going to be taking a road trip in the 46 next month weather permitting.

Before you let weather decide whether or not to give you permission to go check out this past thread of Fords ignoring the weather and going anyway. It's pretty "cool." :
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54060

[fourtydlx]

Prof. Thanks for taking us along on your journey, Great photos.

[BONNEVILLE BOB 95]

Really enjoyed your thread. Haven't been able to take a road trip of late. It's awesome to see someone that really drives/enjoys his car nowadays. Especially outside the realm of cruze in/car shows. Nothin wrong with those, but real trips, real destinations, real memories...... Real Fun.

[George49Ford]

Old Henry - Love your photos, stories and your car! Does your '47 have an overdrive? If not, how is the performance and mileage on long trips? My '49 was not very suitable for freeway driving with original 3 speed w/o OD. George Milliorn

[Old Henry]

Originally Posted by George49Ford

Old Henry - Love your photos, stories and your car! Does your '47 have an overdrive? If not, how is the performance and mileage on long trips? My '49 was not very suitable for freeway driving with original 3 speed w/o OD. George Milliorn

Sorry for the delayed response. Somehow I missed your post.

No overdrive. No tachometer. So, I don't know what the RPM's were at cruising speeds. Generally drove between 50 and 55 in 55 mph speed limits and 60-65 in 65 mph speed limits. Anything over that was freeway and I stayed under 65 in the slow lane. Did just fine. Inasmuch as the highest speed limits in 1947 were 60 mph I have assumed that Mr. Ford designed my car to travel that speed for long stretches without problems or overreving and, indeed, that is my experience. Engine doesn't seem stressed at all at those speeds. Would probably need overdrive to keep up with most freeway traffic but have no interest in that. As stated in "CARS," I don't drive my vintage car to make good time, I drive my car to have a good time and have a much better time at slower speeds than at faster ones.

As reported at the end of my original report, overall average gas mileage was 11.62 mpg.

[41Fordor]

I took mine to Denver in September for a show. Traffic here on 1-25 and I-80 runs 70-80 even in the slow lane. C-470 around Denver is 75 mph also, but the tolls are so high hardly anyone uses it. I try to take back roads and it's more enjoyable that way. I'm not sure what my rear end gears are, or RPM, but it cruises nicely at 60 mph without even keeping my foot down. My mom hadn't seen the car since I dragged it out of Dad's barn 5 years ago and she got a kick out of it.

[66f100]

Thanks for sharing the story and pictures!

[petehoovie]

WOW! Old Henry posted this story and pictures back in 2012 (09/23/2012). Too bad Old Henry (Craig) no longer posts on this forum. He's been gone from here for several years now....

[Bored&Stroked]

I so enjoyed his posts . . . some of the best to vicariously live through another man's quests. Anybody happen to know what happened to him?

[51504bat]

Originally Posted by Bored&Stroked

I so enjoyed his posts . . . some of the best to vicariously live through another man's quests. Anybody happen to know what happened to him?

I believe the "Professor" moved on to large scale remote control airplanes and his old Ford exploits took a back seat. Hopefully he still is still driving his Ford.

[uncle buck]

Originally Posted by Bored&Stroked

I so enjoyed his posts . . . some of the best to vicariously live through another man's quests. Anybody happen to know what happened to him?

According to his profile, he checked in on us last night at 8:04 pm. I also miss reading about his adventures.

[Rand]

I miss reading about old Henry's adventures as well. Almost met up with him back when he used to post when I was passing through his town. Would of been fun!

[Old Redneck]

It was very nice seeing you and the little dog. The pictures are great. You have the right idea enjoying your little Ford. I will watch this post several times and enjoy it every time. All my Junkers do is sit around here and collect dust. God Bless You.

[Karl]

Wow what great photos.
I was shocked to see your average gas price. I did a quick conversion and in New Zealand we are paying the equivalent of almost US$6.00 per US gallon !

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by Karl

Wow what great photos.
I was shocked to see your average gas price. I did a quick conversion and in New Zealand we are paying the equivalent of almost US$6.00 per US gallon !

Karl,

These photos were posted back in September of 2012....