Modern steel belted radials on '37 wide five wheels

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by farmertom

Hey use guys, are '37 wide five wheels welded or rivited. I assume a tire dealer that also does agricultural tires would have correct size valve stems to fit my rims if going with tubeless radials. Tom.

The 'wide-fives' each have 12 rivets, as can be seen clearly in the third & fourth wheels from left....all are wide-fives. The second picture clearly shows the size of the hole for the valve stem. As I said earlier, I simply bead-blast the inside of wheel (where the air goes), and dab a little JB WELD around each rivet. Coop

[cas3]

12 rivets would be the same number as the later wheels at 3 per "spoke" . Interesting, I would have thought more

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by cas3

12 rivets would be the same number as the later wheels at 3 per "spoke" . Interesting, I would have thought more

Well cas.....You just MIGHT be right. I don't have a "wide-five" handy any more, and I know that the UN-wide fives have four groups of three. I didn't figure the wide fives would be any stronger with a rivet for every spoke. Since the wide-fives have 15-spokes, that means you could skip every fourth spoke and end-up with four groups of three. So, I just COULD be full of it. We all know that's entirely possible, for sure! Coop

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[Newc]

I take them apart for the centers- rivet on every spoke and the they are very tight to the rims. Newc

[cas3]

Yes, the centers I have removed are a very tight fit to the rim. The rivets too. Yet, I still worry about a slow leak if going tubeless.

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Originally Posted by cas3

Yes, the centers I have removed are a very tight fit to the rim. The rivets too. Yet, I still worry about a slow leak if going tubeless.

Well cas, I'm glad that you learned me something about those pesky rivets. Thinking about it now, and since those wide-5 wheels are NOT a solid disc, I guess riveting EVERY spoke couldn't help but make a stronger, structural unit.

I/we have run the JB WELD on the rivets on Ford wheels of multiple cars, and have NEVER had a leak! Just make sure to bead blast first. Coop

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[aussie merc]

looks that everyone missed the point a tire is constructed to fit a certain size rim; JJ ,safety or old style even 3 piece it dosen't matter if its for a 5" rim that's where it belongs not on a 3" or a 6" same said for all tires as this sets how the rest of the tire behaves when inflated over stretch or over flex the sidewalls then the sole or tread wont sit correctly [high wear poor performance and overheating ] that kills tires and people these days there's no excuses for mismatched tire and rim combinations

[Cleveland39]

Okay, I'm following this thread to try to find out exactly what the wheel width is for a '39 wide five. It is my understanding that tires are intended to be mounted on wheels of certain widths. Am I misinformed? Also, how can one accurately measure the width of a wheel with a tire already mounted?

[aussie merc]

wide 5 sedan/car as a rule are 4" for 600/16 tires there where some 5" wide around that where on commercial vehicles but i believe they where for 700/16 [never seen any so their rare ] i have a set of wheel calipers to measure mine [$ 5 at a swap meet] but you can get fairly close with a small ruler thru the spokes

[cas3]

The commercial wheels that are wider no longer have the artillery center. They come in 5, and 5 1/2"