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Old 03-10-2022, 12:26 PM   #1
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Hi everyone,

I'm in the midst of restoring my 1930 Model A Coupe and have been looking high and low for the rubber bushings that go on the stem of front engine mount yoke (please see the pics in the attached PDF). I've tried multiple places, Mac's, CWMoss, A-Fordable, Tam's, Ebay, but no one seems to have them.

Does anyone know where I can find them?

Thanks in advance.

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Old 03-10-2022, 12:29 PM   #2
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I don't believe there is supposed to be rubber there. Mine has a leather washer and a brass bushing which rests in the crossmember hole. Someone will correct me shortly if I am wrong
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Old 03-10-2022, 12:33 PM   #3
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Default Re: Looking for the rubber bushings that go on the front engine mount

Also IIRC there have been some posts here about aftermarket mods to the front mount which allegedly reduced vibration. The consensus was that thos do more harm than good and it's best to stick with the stock setup. The vendors sell all the correct parts you need.
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Old 03-10-2022, 12:41 PM   #4
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I don't know, maybe the original owner put them on there? Those bushings pretty old, stiff, cracked, and fall apart with just a little pressure. There is a metal washer under the lower bushing where the castle nut goes on, it's just hard to see because it's pretty much sunk into the bushing.

If there's a different setup for that mount, I would definitely like to know, so I get the right parts.
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Old 03-10-2022, 12:42 PM   #5
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Yes, throw that stuff away and get the original style.
https://modelastore.com/index.php?ro...&category_id=0
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Old 03-10-2022, 01:21 PM   #6
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Oh, that was the original style? I thought that one piece spring setup was the original, since it was so simple.
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In addition to the kit above, you will need the brass bushing. It is sold separately
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Old 03-10-2022, 02:24 PM   #8
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The brass bushing was deleted in February 1929.
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Old 03-10-2022, 02:31 PM   #9
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I found a kit with the bushing. Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it.
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Old 03-10-2022, 03:13 PM   #10
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The brass bushing was deleted in February 1929.
I didn't know that. What holds the yoke in the center of the crossmember? I have it on my 1930.
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Old 03-10-2022, 04:07 PM   #11
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Some also use the Float a Motor front and rear mount mod. My old 29 came to me with an aftermarket set up that looks like two bicycle seat springs joined together with two rubber cushions shaped to fit I side the springs. The cushions almost look like rubber bottle stoppers. I had not ever seen this set up before I replaced it with the OEM type setup.
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It was just a washer. As Bob mentioned, the top side was a leather washer, then the underside was a flat washer, spring and nut. I think it was redesigned to float a little more.
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Old 03-10-2022, 05:34 PM   #14
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That is an after-market mount sold by Western Auto, OTASCO, etc.
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Old 03-10-2022, 06:00 PM   #15
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We offered those motor mount kits way back in the 70's-80's. Believe they were by Gene Scott at Antique Auto Parts in Rosemead at the time.
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Does anyone have any advice on getting the replacement parts installed with the engine still in? I have one of those same designs on my engine, missing all of the rubber, that vibrates pretty bad. I have all of the new "original" style parts but I can't get the old yoke and springs out due to being unable to lift the engine high enough to clear...
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That's exactly what mine looks like, and it also has rubber bushings on the top and bottom of the yoke stem. Those were the parts I was looking for.
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Old 03-10-2022, 07:46 PM   #18
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That's exactly what mine looks like, and it also has rubber bushings on the top and bottom of the yoke stem. Those were the parts I was looking for.
I just went to replace my springs and such yesterday as I noticed it looked "flat" and didn't have a spring underneath the crossmember and I have bad vibrations -- then I discovered my setup was completely different from what I ordered and looks exactly like what you have pictured and I couldn't get the thing out from behind the crank pulley because the springs wouldn't come out separately. Crazy that this was at the top page of the barn right as I was about to start looking into what that setup was and why it was different. Mine doesn't have any rubber under the bottom of it and is sitting directly on the center wire of the spring and is cinched tightly on the bottom with washers... Guess that's a bit of a deviation from how it was originally supposed to be and explains some of my vibration.
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Try Bert's

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I just went to replace my springs and such yesterday as I noticed it looked "flat" and didn't have a spring underneath the crossmember and I have bad vibrations -- then I discovered my setup was completely different from what I ordered and looks exactly like what you have pictured and I couldn't get the thing out from behind the crank pulley because the springs wouldn't come out separately. Crazy that this was at the top page of the barn right as I was about to start looking into what that setup was and why it was different. Mine doesn't have any rubber under the bottom of it and is sitting directly on the center wire of the spring and is cinched tightly on the bottom with washers... Guess that's a bit of a deviation from how it was originally supposed to be and explains some of my vibration.
I have all of the bits I will need to do this job out on the workbench as I type. I guess we make it double crazy.
From experience, I have the same concern as SonicRat about getting the old one out with the engine in the car. I considered taking the pulley off but I don't think that is possible either. Maybe I can get in there enough to cut up the old one first.
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