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verrece · 10-30-2011, 08:46 PM

I am restoring a 1928 Phaeton and the front and rear wood seat frame are completely rotted out, therefore is impossibte to use them to take any pattern. Here in Argentina, there is nobody who sells them. Does anyone who have prints or drawings with dimensions?. Thanking you in advance

verrece · 11-01-2011, 08:08 PM

Nobody could help me?

28Annie · 11-01-2011, 08:41 PM

Have you tried calling Snyders here in the US? They might have the blueprints you need or maybe can help you find just the seat frame wood. The entire wood kit for a Phaeton is expensive (almost $900) if you get it pre-cut. The Snyders number is (330) 549-5313. Keep checking back on this forum every couple of days - most of the time someone has the information you need.

Marco Tahtaras · 11-01-2011, 11:57 PM

I think the reason nobody has been able to help is that folks in the USA have not seen an Argentine version if a '28-29 Phaeton. They are very rare here in the states. I've only seen a couple in 35-40 years but never worked on one. Below are pics of our domestic version which is primarily steel.

Sorry, only had large pics handy!

28Annie · 11-02-2011, 12:56 PM

My 1928 Phaeton came from Argentina and the wood looks exactly like the pictures Marco was kind enough to post.

verrece · 11-02-2011, 09:10 PM

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Dear Fellows, in the photo, you will see the wood frame I am looking for the drawing, (both: front and rear)

wrndln · 11-02-2011, 10:47 PM

28 phaetons did not have a wood frame on the front or rear seat cushion. The springs were upholstered without a wood frame and the upholstered springs just sit in the metal seat frame. What you have is similar to what a 28/29 coupe used. I know, I have both a 29 phaeton and 28 special coupe. It appears that someone might have installed a wood frame on some 28 phaeton seat spring which is not correct. I guess you could add the wood, but I don't know why - maybe to make the seat and inch higher?

verrece · 11-03-2011, 08:47 PM

Dear wrndln
Tanks, I Understand the seat cushion goes over the top of the metal seat frame.
Are there some anti Squeak pad or tape between the springs and the metal seat frame?

Marco Tahtaras · 11-03-2011, 10:23 PM

There was no anti-squeak used in this area. The pics below is my duplicate of the original rear Phaeton cushion. My Roaster has the same design and it makes no sound with the weight of the driver on it.

wrndln · 11-03-2011, 10:31 PM

Verrece, Marco answered your question. Only the upholstered springs sit on the metal frames - front and rear.

29RPU · 11-04-2011, 02:58 AM

Yes, I have a 29 Phaeton, and I didn't respond because I didn't really understand what was going on....

BILL WILLIAMSON · 11-04-2011, 02:23 PM

Maybe try FORDWOOD.COM

verrece · 11-05-2011, 08:16 PM

Dear colleagues, Thanks for your answers, like you advised to me, I will not use wood seat frames in my Phaeton

10-30-2011, 08:46 PM	#1
verrece Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 129	1928/9 Phaeton seat wood frame I am restoring a 1928 Phaeton and the front and rear wood seat frame are completely rotted out, therefore is impossibte to use them to take any pattern. Here in Argentina, there is nobody who sells them. Does anyone who have prints or drawings with dimensions?. Thanking you in advance

11-01-2011, 08:08 PM	#2
verrece Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 129	Re: 1928/9 Phaeton seat wood frame Nobody could help me?

11-01-2011, 08:41 PM	#3
28Annie Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Apex, North Carolina Posts: 59	Re: 1928/9 Phaeton seat wood frame Have you tried calling Snyders here in the US? They might have the blueprints you need or maybe can help you find just the seat frame wood. The entire wood kit for a Phaeton is expensive (almost $900) if you get it pre-cut. The Snyders number is (330) 549-5313. Keep checking back on this forum every couple of days - most of the time someone has the information you need.

11-01-2011, 11:57 PM	#4
Marco Tahtaras Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,099	Re: 1928/9 Phaeton seat wood frame I think the reason nobody has been able to help is that folks in the USA have not seen an Argentine version if a '28-29 Phaeton. They are very rare here in the states. I've only seen a couple in 35-40 years but never worked on one. Below are pics of our domestic version which is primarily steel. Sorry, only had large pics handy! __________________ http://www.abarnyard.com/

11-02-2011, 12:56 PM	#5
28Annie Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Apex, North Carolina Posts: 59	Re: 1928/9 Phaeton seat wood frame My 1928 Phaeton came from Argentina and the wood looks exactly like the pictures Marco was kind enough to post.

11-02-2011, 10:47 PM	#7
wrndln Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 5,165	Re: 1928/9 Phaeton seat wood frame 28 phaetons did not have a wood frame on the front or rear seat cushion. The springs were upholstered without a wood frame and the upholstered springs just sit in the metal seat frame. What you have is similar to what a 28/29 coupe used. I know, I have both a 29 phaeton and 28 special coupe. It appears that someone might have installed a wood frame on some 28 phaeton seat spring which is not correct. I guess you could add the wood, but I don't know why - maybe to make the seat and inch higher?

11-03-2011, 08:47 PM	#8
verrece Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 129	Re: 1928/9 Phaeton seat wood frame Dear wrndln Tanks, I Understand the seat cushion goes over the top of the metal seat frame. Are there some anti Squeak pad or tape between the springs and the metal seat frame?

11-03-2011, 10:23 PM	#9
Marco Tahtaras Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,099	Re: 1928/9 Phaeton seat wood frame There was no anti-squeak used in this area. The pics below is my duplicate of the original rear Phaeton cushion. My Roaster has the same design and it makes no sound with the weight of the driver on it. __________________ http://www.abarnyard.com/

11-03-2011, 10:31 PM	#10
wrndln Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 5,165	Re: 1928/9 Phaeton seat wood frame Verrece, Marco answered your question. Only the upholstered springs sit on the metal frames - front and rear.

11-04-2011, 02:58 AM	#11
29RPU Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Visalia, California Posts: 246	Re: 1928/9 Phaeton seat wood frame Yes, I have a 29 Phaeton, and I didn't respond because I didn't really understand what was going on....

11-04-2011, 02:23 PM	#12
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: 1928/9 Phaeton seat wood frame Maybe try FORDWOOD.COM __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

11-05-2011, 08:16 PM	#13
verrece Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 129	Re: 1928/9 Phaeton seat wood frame Dear colleagues, Thanks for your answers, like you advised to me, I will not use wood seat frames in my Phaeton