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01-23-2017, 03:44 PM | #21 |
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Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one
Appears it is always a good idea to kindly remind others from time to time about Model A safety concerns and Model A safety considerations that are available.
Then, each one of us can think, try to evaluate, and try to decide what is most important with the life we are enjoying today. Thanks for the reminder. |
01-23-2017, 04:02 PM | #22 | |
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Well, here it is. In all of my As, I have a lap belt for each passenger and either a lap/sash belt or racing style harness for the driver. I'm usually the driver and I don't want to be impaled on the steering column. Wearing them makes me feel much safer but I know I am still not as safe as in a modern car. I think equally important for safety is your safe driving ability/techniques
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01-23-2017, 05:01 PM | #23 | |
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01-23-2017, 05:55 PM | #24 |
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Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one
Here is how I figure it, could he, due to the severity of the crash, have died with one, yes. But he absolutely died without one.
and at least didnt end up comatose or paralyzed for life............. because of one. as Chippy mentions- no requirement to have a seat belt when riding a motorcycle. we all have choices. I dont want them in my antiques-end of story! |
01-23-2017, 06:10 PM | #25 |
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Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one
Here is a post from the V8 Forum. The driver had a seat belt on and was not injured.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=213014 |
01-23-2017, 06:49 PM | #26 |
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01-23-2017, 08:44 PM | #27 |
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Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one
NOT RECOMMENDING THIS, but I saw a Model A with ONE continuous lap belt, from one door to the other. His idea was that it "might'" keep them from falling out of the car????
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01-24-2017, 03:59 AM | #28 |
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Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one
I see seat belts as being like the helmets that soldiers wear, they boost confidence and give the wearer a feeling of invulnerability. It is a well documented fact that after the British Army issued hard hats to all their soldiers fighting in the trenches fatalities from sniper fire increased dramatically. Before they realised that a bare head or woolly hat was no protection against a bullet but with a bit of tin on their head they believed that all would be fine.
If you want to fit a seatbelt to a Model A fine, it's a great idea, but, please, continue to drive as though you are driving without. Belt and braces. |
01-24-2017, 07:34 AM | #29 | |
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If you are t-boned at the drivers side and you are in a seatbelt where do you go?.........nowhere,you'l get the full impact from the crashed door and sidewall. Such a '40 Ford is more solid as a model A,when you are t-boned in a model A you can only do 1 thing...........pray........ I don't have seatbelts in my tudor and i don't want them too,i know it is not very smart but i never wear seatbelts(only if the cops are looking to avoid a ticket) in my modern car,i hate those things and take the risk.......... |
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01-24-2017, 08:11 AM | #30 |
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Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one
My condolences to the family.
The crash occurred at 12:15AM? That might imply less than ideal driving conditions. Certainly Model A headlights are a bit less bright than modern day halogens or LEDs Here is an excellent source for seat belts-classic styles, DOT approved, reasonable cost. Never re-use belts from a wrecking yard. http://www.andoauto.com/ |
01-24-2017, 08:50 AM | #31 |
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Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one
I wear my seat belt for added comfort and to help stop fuel leaks. What!? Model A seats have no side bolsters, and so it is easy to slide around a lot. The belt keeps me planted in the seat. Without it you use your grip on the steering wheel to stop sliding sideways in a turn. This applies lateral force (multiple by the lever effect of the length of the steering column drop) to the attachment point on the bottom of the fuel tank. This can lead to leaks.
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01-24-2017, 10:16 AM | #32 |
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Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one
If you have been around A's for anytime, you will likely agree that it doesn't take a catastrophic event for a door to open inadvertently. Especially open cars. I'll take my chances staying in the vehicle. We all know going in that we are not surrounded by the safety of modern vehicles, but we also know that we are surrounded by distracted drivers. Pay attention to your environment, traffic, be aware of distractions. I drive my A's to escape the madness. That usually means traveling by backroads, two-lanes whenever possible. My seat belts make me more secure than not. If I am confronted by a catastrophic collision, one that dislodges steering gear, etc. than my time has come, seat belt or no and I have accepted that risk by choosing to drive this antique.
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01-24-2017, 10:43 AM | #33 |
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Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one
Not a fan of belts in a model A. While i certainly understand the dangers of being thrown out in an accident (which is WAY more likely in an A than a modern car), I also understand that being strapped in with the fuel tank virtually in your lap has it's inherent risks well in a accident. I don't like either consideration. As someone else mentioned, the bigger risk, IMO is being thrown out just by the door coming open in a curve (for the passenger) and for this, and this only, I would consider belts.
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01-24-2017, 11:33 AM | #34 |
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Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one
Synchro909,
Yes, you can fairly easily install three point retractable seat belts in an open car. I installed them in our roadster and they work well. For anybody interested, do a forum search or google "put 3point retractable seat belts in a roadster" or PM me. Glen
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01-24-2017, 12:02 PM | #35 |
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Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one
IMHO If you don't want seat belts, don't install them. If you don't want to wear seat belts don't wear them.
If you don't know know what to do, just read the local newspaper for reports of accidents and note the number of people thrown from their vehicles and killed (and that is in modern cars). Several local young people died within the last year, "too cool to wear a seatbelt?" cold now, dead cold! |
01-24-2017, 01:29 PM | #36 |
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Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one
I'm going to put 3 point shoulder belts/seat belts in my 30 CCPU this spring. I will be replacing the wood brace across the back of the cab with a machined steel one the same size. I'll put a 1x2 steel pillar in each corner and attach it the new steel brace. That will be the upper attachment point for the shoulder belt. The height of the pillar will be 29 inches above the seat cushion, same as my S10 Blazer. I figure no sense in going half way.
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01-24-2017, 02:03 PM | #37 |
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Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one
A lot of you must have very fast As with fantastic grip. All this talk about being thrown from the car if a door flies open! You must be pulling G forces that I can only dream about.
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01-24-2017, 02:44 PM | #38 |
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Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one
Somebody pulls out in front of you and you hit them at 45 MPH, I dare say there are multiple G forces going to put a hurting on you!!!!!!!!!!!
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01-24-2017, 03:14 PM | #39 |
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Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one
AL,
Be sure to take plenty of pictures. Your plan is exactly what I will want to do for my Pickup.
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01-24-2017, 03:36 PM | #40 |
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Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one
And when that happens, as pointed out above, your seat belt is not going to offer you anything like the level of protection that many of the posters imagine it will. Is there any crash test data to show exactly what will happen to the driver and passenger in a frontal crash at any speed?
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