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MikeK · 07-23-2015, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mrtexas

All oils are not lubricants. Lube oils are branched chain paraffins.

Lube oils from crude oil distillation are a mix of straight and branched chain HC's. The STP MSDS lists simply "Mineral oil" (AKA a crude oil, paraffinic, alkane) mix as the base ingredient. That's the same (approximately 64% straight chain) crude base source used for lubricants.

raprice22 · 07-23-2015, 04:33 PM

Bruce,
Did you see what your started?
Rog

mrtexas · 07-23-2015, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeK

Lube oils from crude oil distillation are a mix of straight and branched chain HC's. The STP MSDS lists simply "Mineral oil" (AKA a crude oil, paraffinic, alkane) mix as the base ingredient. That's the same (approximately 64% straight chain) crude base source used for lubricants.

Lube oil is made from lube crudes. Any old crude won't make quality lubes. The lubes have to be in the crude to begin with. Making lubes is the process of removing what isn't lube from the lube cut on the crude unit vacuum tower. The first process takes out the aromatics. The second process takes out the waxes which are the straight chain HCs. The waxes are taken out so the lube oil doesn't turn into a solid at low temperatures. The lube oils are dewaxed to a pour point of 0-10F. What is left is lube base stock. Then add 30-40% of additives and you have automotive lube oil that you can buy at Walmart. Once upon a time back in the 80s I scheduled production at a lube oil plant that made 500,000 gal/day of lube base stocks and waxes.

Oh course now lube crudes are getting scarce and non-lube crude gas oils are hydrocracked to make lubes out of them.

It is a viscosity modifier to make thin lube oil into thicker lube oil.

Rowdy · 07-23-2015, 04:47 PM

I think for Meropa 680 it was $52 for 5 gallons. Likely it has gone up since 2006, but I would not think it has gone up to $35 per gallon. If you paid that price someone fleeced you good. Rod

RonC · 07-23-2015, 05:38 PM

According to STP their additive is designed to be mixed with oil not run straight.

Mitch//pa · 07-23-2015, 06:38 PM

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yep it says it in big letters on the front of the container

Bob C · 07-23-2015, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rowdy

I think for Meropa 680 it was $52 for 5 gallons. Likely it has gone up since 2006, but I would not think it has gone up to $35 per gallon. If you paid that price someone fleeced you good. Rod

About $130 for 5 gal. http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOBIL-103499...item3396ed45f1

Bob

mrtexas · 07-23-2015, 07:23 PM

That 680 stuff gets very stiff in cold weather. Good for summer driving. Here is 600W the 460 stuff: http://www.mobil.com/Egypt-English/L...inder_Oil.aspx
http://www.amazon.com/MOBIL-600W-SUP.../dp/B00G97EIJ2
I've tried both. 680 great for a hot summer makes shifting a breeze. In cold weather it takes two hands and a lot of muscle to shift.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 07-23-2015, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

yep it says it in big letters on the front of the container

BUT, duz anyone READ?? Does anyone even read whut's in the FOOD, thet you HOG down EVERYDAY? Does everyone know that when you drink JOY JUICE, the ALCOHOL is singled out & goes DIRECT to yo' LIVER & "COOKS" thet Dude & some goes to yo' "BRAIN" & cooks a mess uf BRAIN CELLS & you feel TIPSY & you wonder why you feel like CRAP, in the A.M.
YES, this is Model A related, DON'T DRINK & DRIVE WITH A SICK LIVER & A SUB-STANDARD BRAIN!
Bill W.

Rowdy · 07-23-2015, 10:10 PM

Merpo 680 is now $88.81 for 5 gallons. Some of the local Model A people mix in 20% Lucas oil stabilizer. Rod

BILL WILLIAMSON · 07-23-2015, 10:39 PM

Even OLIVE OIL feels SHLICKERY, don't put some unknown, strange stuff in your car, just because someone said so!!! I once checked out with 4 grocery items & a quart of PENNZOIL, check out artist, Richard, inquired, "And what are we cookin' tonight"?
Bill W.

Mike V. Florida · 07-23-2015, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RonC

According to STP their additive is designed to be mixed with oil not run straight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

yep it says it in big letters on the front of the container

I would think they would push one to use 100% of their product to increase sales if they thought it was ok to use that way. I for one usually follow manufacturers instructions. Your results may vary.

Brianfrench65 · 07-26-2015, 10:11 AM

Thanks to the knowledge in this forum; I have drained my transmission and put 600 wt oil from a local Model A supplier, and then added about a pint of STP.

This does seam to work much better than the straight STP. By the way, 24 hours to drain the STP, and looking inside, with the shifter cover removed, there was a sticky coating on everything.

Thank You again for the knowledge.

07-23-2015, 04:33 PM	#22
raprice22 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 80	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart Bruce, Did you see what your started? Rog

07-23-2015, 04:47 PM	#24
Rowdy BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gothenburg Nebraska Just off I-80 Posts: 4,893	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart I think for Meropa 680 it was $52 for 5 gallons. Likely it has gone up since 2006, but I would not think it has gone up to $35 per gallon. If you paid that price someone fleeced you good. Rod __________________ Do the RIGHT thing - Support the H.A.M.B. Alliance!!!!

07-23-2015, 05:38 PM	#25
RonC Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 1,868	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart According to STP their additive is designed to be mixed with oil not run straight.

07-23-2015, 06:38 PM	#26
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) yep it says it in big letters on the front of the container

07-23-2015, 07:23 PM	#28
mrtexas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 4,395	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart That 680 stuff gets very stiff in cold weather. Good for summer driving. Here is 600W the 460 stuff: http://www.mobil.com/Egypt-English/L...inder_Oil.aspx http://www.amazon.com/MOBIL-600W-SUP.../dp/B00G97EIJ2 I've tried both. 680 great for a hot summer makes shifting a breeze. In cold weather it takes two hands and a lot of muscle to shift.

07-23-2015, 10:10 PM	#30
Rowdy BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gothenburg Nebraska Just off I-80 Posts: 4,893	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart Merpo 680 is now $88.81 for 5 gallons. Some of the local Model A people mix in 20% Lucas oil stabilizer. Rod __________________ Do the RIGHT thing - Support the H.A.M.B. Alliance!!!!

07-23-2015, 10:39 PM	#31
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart Even OLIVE OIL feels SHLICKERY, don't put some unknown, strange stuff in your car, just because someone said so!!! I once checked out with 4 grocery items & a quart of PENNZOIL, check out artist, Richard, inquired, "And what are we cookin' tonight"? Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

07-26-2015, 10:11 AM	#33
Brianfrench65 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Freetown, Massachusetts Posts: 511	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart Thanks to the knowledge in this forum; I have drained my transmission and put 600 wt oil from a local Model A supplier, and then added about a pint of STP. This does seam to work much better than the straight STP. By the way, 24 hours to drain the STP, and looking inside, with the shifter cover removed, there was a sticky coating on everything. Thank You again for the knowledge. __________________ Brian French; 1930 Briggs Town Sedan