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Old 01-27-2017, 06:06 PM   #61
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true Bob

but how many people say- think I'll bid 20k for that car, then turn around and say- alright now Im going
40k

lil fishy to me. I could see 5k increments........... to win it.
I quite agree was thinking the same thing..... a scam in the works

Never been to an auction where somebody throws out 'double the bid' to win an item. $5,000 would have been MORE than enough.

I think we haven't seen the last of this Model A.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:27 PM   #62
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Car probably had a 38k minimum

Bid 1 5k max reserve not met
Bid 2 10k reserve not met
Bid 3 12.5k reserve not met
Bid 4 40k max auto bid to reserve, bid shown 38k winner
Any bid less than reserve would not have won
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Old 01-27-2017, 07:07 PM   #63
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Maybe I'm wrong, but It seems like someone else would have to bid him up to that price.
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Old 01-27-2017, 07:41 PM   #64
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I had dealing with the same seller 10 years ago. After telling him I had 1928 cars. I pointed out several things that were not correct and he took offence. We could not agree on a lower price. He buys and sells mostly vintage trucks and I wouldn't be surprise if he drove the price up.
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Old 01-27-2017, 08:02 PM   #65
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Maybe I'm wrong, but It seems like someone else would have to bid him up to that price.
Yes, I was thinking the same thing. I might be wrong, but even if the guy's max bid is over the reserve, I'm sure another bidder needs to bid against him.
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Old 01-27-2017, 08:02 PM   #66
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Maybe I'm wrong, but It seems like someone else would have to bid him up to that price.
Not if there is a reserve. You can just keep upping your bid till you
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Old 01-27-2017, 08:08 PM   #67
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Nice roadster but for me there is but one roadster I' d want
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Old 01-27-2017, 08:56 PM   #68
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Everybody is bidding against the reserve, until the reserve is met.

Reserve 38k.
Bid max 12k. reserve not met
Bid 2 max bid 39k. bid shown 38k reserve met
Bid 3 max bid 38.5k bid 38.5k auto bid goes to 39k (2nd bidders max)
Rebid by 3 max 41k bid shown 39k plus increment on 39k (increment probably 500) so 39.5k
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It is also possible the seller lowered the reserve at some point after the winning bid was made which could indicate such a large gap between the last two bidders.

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Not if there is a reserve. You can just keep upping your bid till you
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Yep, that sounds the most plausible so far .

Although to do that thru ebay would have been very lucky to fluke the reserve at just 6 seconds to go.

The winner in the end was the highest bidder at the $20000 mark.

Then he threw a high bid in either exactly at $38500 or higher.

His bid won at 6 seconds to go, so it was probably a high bid thru a sniper program.

I don;t know how a sniper program could detect a reserve , maybe they can.

I doubt if it was the seller himself or a pal as this would be dumb to bid at the exact reserve himself , then he would have to either make a bad seller claim or pay the fees to ebay himself for a no sale.

If the reserve was $38500, a smart seller would have $38400 bid for himself on a snipe with enough time to allow another snipe to win..

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Old 01-27-2017, 09:08 PM   #71
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Looks like the seller lowered the reserve before the deadline to do so.

If the high bidder is who I think he is there won't be much of a problem with the financial part of this deal.

I was very tempted to bid on this car, but if I was the high bidder my wife of 46+ years would have had what my grandparents used to refer to as a "hissy fit".

I am very fortunate to already own three white ribbon 1st place National Show "A's" and maybe that should be enough. (That's what I tell my wife anyway.)

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Old 01-27-2017, 11:52 PM   #72
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With the bidding process, I learned along the way. If I went up increments then the bidding could get into a p*ssing match. The best way for me to bid was to decide what I was willing to pay and then create a snipe with that amount. If my bid was the highest and higher than the reserve, I won. If not, then I was happy not to pay too much.

It looks like the winning bidder said something like, 'I'd be willing to go $40k'. He snipes that (remember the earlier snipe if there is a tie wins) $40K and the reserve is $38,500. He wins.

Don't know if the seller lowered his reserve but if he did, it was a good choice because his car is now sold.

Personally, from what I know about prices for original cars, that $38,500 is on the high side of reasonable. I understand that many Model Aers would not even consider paying half of that, but as they say, 'They don't make original cars anymore'. Original cars are very special. If given the opportunity to drive an original car you will find out that they handle in a way that restored Model A's only approach, but don't quite duplicate.
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A shiny coat of paint don't make it go any better.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:59 AM   #74
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I place my max bid early, and let the auto bid 'snipe'. most of the time I have been sucked into paying more than I wanted for a part I really needed
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Ebay high bid is not snipe.
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Old 01-28-2017, 11:40 AM   #76
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Ebay high bid is not snipe.
Why do you say this, it came in 6 seconds before the auction end.

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Old 01-28-2017, 11:43 AM   #77
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I always snipe my max bid with 6 seconds to go. It my best hope of getting what I want. If I loose, then it went for more than I wanted to pay, and I wait for another one to show up.
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Why do you say this, it came in 6 seconds before the auction end.

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It could have been a snipe in its own right,and it could also be an ebay high bid, but they are two completely different things.

If you put a high bid in Ebay, your bid is shown immediately, and if it is still above anyone else who bids, they are overbid by yours automaticlally.

Everyone can see you bidding from the time you placed your high bid.

This particular sale was a strange one where the final winner had a very high offer over his own high bid waiting in the background .

Personally I would have let the auction run and be the highest bidder reserve not met and then have negotiation advantage with the seller.

But it seems the winner wanted this car at any cost, who knows he may have had $100K as a bid .........

Sniping is using a third party program with your high bid totolly anonymous until,seconds before the end, and of course it only shows if you are in fact the highest bidder and won..


I have no experience on what may have happenend here....

The final winner may have had a bid that was exact to or over the reserve and it was an ebay automatic bid , but it was not what is called a snipe.

The only thing I can think of, it was a third party snipe and the program can detect a reserve.

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Old 02-11-2017, 06:10 PM   #79
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The car is in Minnesota now. 200 miles from where it was built. Absolutely love the car!
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Congratulations on the "new" car. Jeff
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