59A Flathead into a '32 Frame, The Fan

[1962300]

I am building a '32 Roadster and in it is a 59A Flathead.

I have the stock '32 Generator / Fan set up.
But...the fan ends up too close to the radiator core...not enough clearance.

Anyone had this issue and if so, how was slightly more clearance created?

Thanks!!

[NealinCA]

I have a 59A in a 32 with a stock fan and it clears. How is the engine mounted...using the stock K-member? Pictures of what you have would be a big help.

Neal

[Charlie Stephens]

How about a picture of your fan, there were several lengths. The 1932 Ford fan was the longest.

Charlie Stephens

[Kahuna]

I also have a 59 engine in a 32. The original 32 fan is too long, as I have a 4 core radiator. I use a 39 std fan and it works fine. I'm also using original 32 motor mounts.
Jim

[1962300]

Motor is mounted with the stock K Frame and stock Motor Mounts.
Maybe I need to find a '39 Fan that will bolt to my Generator....

[NealinCA]

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Isn't the intake in the same position on a 32 block as it is on a 59A?

My 32 sedan has a 32 block with a later intake, 33-36 generator and a stock 32 fan. My 32 p/u has a 59A, 39 style generator and a stock 32 fan. They both fit just fine.

Neal

[quickchange34]

Use the 39 fan.

[BR549]

Hi I have a fan that measures 2" from base to fan, will that help? [email protected]

[Jason in TX]

Use a 1933-36 Ford generator mounted fan. They came in different length hubs depending on the year.

Search "193* ford fan" on ebay and you'll see different kinds.

[1962300]

Who knows where to find a '39 Fan??

[Mike in AZ]

epay....under 1937 ford fan.....maybe one of those will work....Mike

[flatjack9]

No way will a 39 fan work. I have a 59A fan in mine.

[1962300]

So a 1939 Fan WON'T work?
Will this one for a '37 work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1937-Ford-85...1a74da&vxp=mtr

[NealinCA]

I still don't understand why a stock 32 fan won't work...



I have planty of space between the fan and the radiator.

Neal

[1962300]

Yea....Generator is as far back as it can go and the fan is a hair from the radiator core....so with kicked up rpm's the fan may flex into the core.

[flatjack9]

Originally Posted by flatjack9

No way will a 39 fan work. I have a 59A fan in mine.

I was thinking 39 DeLuxe. 39 standard would probably be like a 37.

[Robert Dip]

Over the years, I have search hi & lo for an original '32 V8 fan. I am fortunate enough to have obtained two of them. In the 'Green Book', the part # is 18-8600 and it describes the total lengthy from hub base to blade as 4 ½”. Mine are that dimension +/- 1/16”. I also have a 59AB engine in a stock ’32 frame, stock trans K member and stock ’32 V8 mount. The fan blade easily clears the original V8 radiator.
In fact, I see that I may have move it slightly closer to the rad…maybe not! The ’33 – ’36 fans are much too short….so something is strange on your set-up. Please check the overall length of your fan. Hope this helps

Robert

[Andy]

Did you use a 34 wishbone or move the K member? The 32 fan will fit in a 32 if the K member and front crossmember are in the right places.

[Bruce Lancaster]

Before messing around, figure out what is wrong or different about your '32. The pulley sheaves on a '32 are same distance from block as the pump set of sheaves on a 59A, so fan should end up in right place. Something is different about your mount location or radiator or something!
Any '32-38-9 generator mount fan will fit the same flange but '32 is the longest, except possibly for some truck ones. I think most other gen mount fans are MUCH shorter than '32 due to the slanted radiators and generally cramped engine rooms in '33-9 Fords and will be way too far from radiator.
I believe that even the '42-48 fan should fit, though I have not proven that for myself.

[1962300]

The engine is not a 1932 block. It is a late 40's flathead....if that makes a difference.
The generator is sitting on top of a vintage Edmunds dual intake with a pair of 97's on top of that.
Thank you all for the responses by the way!!

[johnyeyeball]

the stock 32 fan is for a 21 stud and the off set is different than a 24 stud because the generators are different you need to run the 59A fan and gen

[true blue 32 man]

Hello I"M a original 32 type guy, But in my scrounging for parts I'v seen fans advertised as 32 long hub fans that were slightly shorter . The mounting flange to the generator was the same but the tube length was shorter, than stock 32. All these had a four individual blades riveted to the front hub. Was told these were stock in the 37-38 truck . If you remove the front fan/hub by drilling out the spot welds and center rivet. Then get a 33& up short hub passenger fan assembly . drill the spotwelds & center rivit remove front hub/blade. transfer to the front of the 37-38 truck rear install the center rivit make sure blades are straight with no face runout. Plug weld the hub to the tube where you drilled previous spot welds. dress welds and you will have a stock apearing slightly shorter than 32 fan. I'v done this and takes only an hour or two. The HD truck fans & 33 up blade show up on epay regularly and usually are CHEAP Hope this helps .A good solution if all else fails. Pete the true blue 32 man

[DavidG]

There was only one '32 V-8 four blade fan. The early V-8 two-blade fan came in two different hub lengths. All of the other four-blade fans that mount on the front of the generator with four 1/4" bolts are either '33-'36 or '37+ passenger car/commercial fans or post-'32 truck fans and all of them have shorter hub lengths than a '32 V-8 four-blade fan.

There is a lot of wishful thinking in some ads for '32 parts.

[GSCOV]

Just a thought. There is a fan that looks identical to a 32 fan, but it is about 1/2 inches longer. It is a truck application, not sure of the year, but I have 2 of them. Unless you measure you would swear it is 32 passenger. Did you take your fan off a 32 motor yourself or was it just there?

[hb32]

Bringing this old thread to the top for clearance dimensions. Just bolted the fan to the front of my gen and clearance is tight. Does anyone have a dimension between the fan tips and rad core? Also, steady rods and hood center strip are dimensionally correct and clearance at top looks sufficient, at least an inch but bottom is too close for comfort at less then 1/8". Sorry for the crappy pic but iPad is the best I have.

[Charlie Stephens]

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Originally Posted by hb32

Bringing this old thread to the top for clearance dimensions. Just bolted the fan to the front of my gen and clearance is tight. Does anyone have a dimension between the fan tips and rad core? Also, steady rods and hood center strip are dimensionally correct and clearance at top looks sufficient, at least an inch but bottom is too close for comfort at less then 1/8". Sorry for the crappy pic but iPad is the best I have.

I don't have a dimension but that looks too close. Get the next shorter fan and even though it will be further than you might want from the radiator I would think it would cool ok.

Charlie Stephens

[hb32]

Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens

I don't have a dimension but that looks too close. Get the next shorter fan and even though it will be further than you might want from the radiator I would think it would cool ok.

Charlie Stephens

What would be the next shorter fan from ?
I may have some motor tweaking to do as the passenger side mount does not look centered with the crossmember as well.

[TomT/Williamsburg]

I am running a 59AB with 5-speed, not quite the same, but I am running the add on fan off of the generator and I use the two belt system. It's tight to the radiator and I did elongate the radiator mount holes to the front to give me extra clearance but it does have a fingers width (albeit small fingers) of clearance. My pics are not the clearest but I think you can get the idea ....

As far as the fan flexing at speed, won't it just flatten out and not flex forward or am I thinking of flex fans?

[Charlie Stephens]

Originally Posted by hb32

What would be the next shorter fan from ?
I may have some motor tweaking to do as the passenger side mount does not look centered with the crossmember as well.

I think (and it is an area that I don't know a whole lot about) it is '33-'34 but you would be better off asking by using the dimension. Be careful that the shorter fan doesn't lead to other problems like the blades hitting the radiator hoses or the coil of the distributer.

Charlie Stephens

[russcc]

I used a '49 Ford wide belt fan on a 8RT in an original 32' frame with the K member in the stock location, worked perfect with a stock intake manifold.

[GSCOV]

Charlie Stephens- You are almost correct. Except there is a fan that is about a 1/4 to 5/16 inch longer on the shaft. Have 2 on my shelf, really a shoehorn fit. They both came on 32 V8s with a 59AB engine replacement. I replaced them with "32" fans. 1962300- measure the fan against a real 32 I think you will see a difference. Bruce Lancaster- you said it, the truck ones- bet he has one.

[birdball]

I had the same issue with My sedan- 1948 59a in 32 chassis using 32 mounts. Stock 32 fan was too long using stock v8 radiator. I found this ford 8N/9N 6 blade beauty on ebay for about 50 bucks and it fits great and pulls a lot of air. There is also a 4 blade version.

Hope this helps!
Matt

[birdball]

Sorry for the gigantic pictures! Here is a link to the fan I used:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321967704687

[hb32]

Anybody have a p/n for the belt when using the gen mounted fan, 59A pulley with the front sheave removed and 59A pumps?

[jagford]

How did you do the front mounts?

[deuce lover]

Here is an example.'32 style mounts.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by deuce lover

Here is an example.'32 style mounts.

[38 coupe]

1932 front motor mounts are reproduced, here is a listing at one of the few reproduction parts vendors I like to deal with - https://thirdgenauto.com/product/193...brackets-pair/

[hb32]

No clearance issues. C69A, original fan, original mounts and original rad recored.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by hb32

No clearance issues. C69A, original fan, original mounts and original rad recored.

[glennpm]

Hi,

I have a 59A in my 32 and have plenty of clearance, even with a thicker than stock radiator core. 4" from face of generator pulley to back edge of radiator shell.
Check out the attached pdf.







Glenn