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Steve Plucker · 03-06-2015, 06:34 AM

Can anyone provide any information on just how to determine an original Ford Model A Muffler by just looking at it? What key points tells you it is an original and not a reproduction?

Thanks.

Pluck

gwhite · 03-06-2015, 06:53 AM

You've probably seen this, but it might help for those who haven't; http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/mufflerweld.htm

Steve Plucker · 03-06-2015, 09:04 AM

Well, I do believe by viewing Vince's website, I just might have an original Model A muffler...Any other telltale things to look at?

Pluck

BILL WILLIAMSON · 03-06-2015, 09:47 AM

I have a round, cylindrical muffler, with rolled ends, & the pipes, sanded it with 180 grit, sprayed it with "CAST BLAST" & it looks quite nifty. It'll create attention, as an example of some of the re-poed parts of "THE DAY"!
Bill W. & the GOOD Dog.

Richard Lorenz · 03-06-2015, 09:47 AM

If there are any spot welds showing along the main part of the muffler, it is not an original. The most common repro has embossed letters and numbers showing.

Marco Tahtaras · 03-06-2015, 01:13 PM

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The tailpipe is a dead giveaway once you're familiar. Nobody but Ford and/or their original suppliers ever produced them the same.

P.S. · 03-06-2015, 01:48 PM

Thank you, Marco!! It appears I also have an original!

Guess I will repair those 3 small holes and keep it rather than throw it in the scrap metal pile now.

Jim Mason · 03-06-2015, 01:50 PM

did they ever settle the argument over the different early 28 muffler?

Rowdy · 03-06-2015, 01:58 PM

The more I look at the one I have, the more I am convinced it is an original. Wish it did not have so many dents. Rod

Benson · 03-06-2015, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Mason

did they ever settle the argument over the different early 28 muffler?

Aries website has these drawings on 1928 muffler that might help.

http://www.amuffler.com/content/1928muffler.htm

Other info available by clicking links in left column.

d.j. moordigian · 03-06-2015, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Mason

did they ever settle the argument over the different early 28 muffler?

I didn't know there was a problem Jim,....what's it about?

Jim Mason · 03-06-2015, 06:04 PM

take a look at the link to www.amuffler.com/content/1928muffler.htm to see what I was talking about. the last I heard there was a discussion that the 1928 version shown never made it into production...

dean from bozeman · 03-06-2015, 07:47 PM

Jim, My understanding is that Dave and Marcy Cella worked to assure that the new mufflers had the early '28 bend in them. The one on A495 is one of the Aires 1928 version mufflers.

Steve, when I bought a totally dissembled A7191 from Mick Isbell it had an original muffler with it. Unfortunately that muffler was rusted in half. The front half and the back half were fine but they were halves. You may want to contact the current owner, Mark Maron, and see if he will take any photos of it for you.

Dean

Rowdy · 03-11-2015, 08:37 AM

Since I plan to use a SS Aries, anyone know what the value of a restorable original might be worth? Debating whether to sell it or keep it as a wall hanger. Thanks Rod

Ronnie Lawson · 03-13-2015, 11:12 AM

The Model A Ford Tapered Muffler 2.pdf
I wrote article for MARC in 2013.
Enjoy

03-06-2015, 06:34 AM	#1
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Original Mufflers... Can anyone provide any information on just how to determine an original Ford Model A Muffler by just looking at it? What key points tells you it is an original and not a reproduction? Thanks. Pluck

03-06-2015, 06:53 AM	#2
gwhite Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Texas: Where Bob Wills is still the king! Posts: 354	Re: Original Mufflers... You've probably seen this, but it might help for those who haven't; http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/mufflerweld.htm

03-06-2015, 09:04 AM	#3
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Re: Original Mufflers... Well, I do believe by viewing Vince's website, I just might have an original Model A muffler...Any other telltale things to look at? Pluck

03-06-2015, 09:47 AM	#4
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Original Mufflers... I have a round, cylindrical muffler, with rolled ends, & the pipes, sanded it with 180 grit, sprayed it with "CAST BLAST" & it looks quite nifty. It'll create attention, as an example of some of the re-poed parts of "THE DAY"! Bill W. & the GOOD Dog. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF" Last edited by BILL WILLIAMSON; 03-06-2015 at 10:04 AM.

03-06-2015, 09:47 AM	#5
Richard Lorenz Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 447	Re: Original Mufflers... If there are any spot welds showing along the main part of the muffler, it is not an original. The most common repro has embossed letters and numbers showing.

03-06-2015, 01:13 PM	#6
Marco Tahtaras Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,099	Re: Original Mufflers... Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The tailpipe is a dead giveaway once you're familiar. Nobody but Ford and/or their original suppliers ever produced them the same. __________________ http://www.abarnyard.com/

03-06-2015, 01:48 PM	#7
P.S. Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: California Posts: 1,699	Re: Original Mufflers... Thank you, Marco!! It appears I also have an original! Guess I will repair those 3 small holes and keep it rather than throw it in the scrap metal pile now.

03-06-2015, 01:50 PM	#8
Jim Mason Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 914	Re: Original Mufflers... did they ever settle the argument over the different early 28 muffler? __________________ www.jmodela.coffeecup.com Fwiw, jm.

03-06-2015, 06:04 PM	#12
Jim Mason Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 914	Re: Original Mufflers... take a look at the link to www.amuffler.com/content/1928muffler.htm to see what I was talking about. the last I heard there was a discussion that the 1928 version shown never made it into production... __________________ www.jmodela.coffeecup.com Fwiw, jm.

03-06-2015, 07:47 PM	#13
dean from bozeman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bozeman, Montana Posts: 997	Re: Original Mufflers... Jim, My understanding is that Dave and Marcy Cella worked to assure that the new mufflers had the early '28 bend in them. The one on A495 is one of the Aires 1928 version mufflers. Steve, when I bought a totally dissembled A7191 from Mick Isbell it had an original muffler with it. Unfortunately that muffler was rusted in half. The front half and the back half were fine but they were halves. You may want to contact the current owner, Mark Maron, and see if he will take any photos of it for you. Dean

03-11-2015, 08:37 AM	#14
Rowdy BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gothenburg Nebraska Just off I-80 Posts: 4,893	Re: Original Mufflers... Since I plan to use a SS Aries, anyone know what the value of a restorable original might be worth? Debating whether to sell it or keep it as a wall hanger. Thanks Rod __________________ Do the RIGHT thing - Support the H.A.M.B. Alliance!!!!

03-13-2015, 11:12 AM	#15
Ronnie Lawson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 158	Re: Original Mufflers... The Model A Ford Tapered Muffler 2.pdf I wrote article for MARC in 2013. Enjoy