Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Model A (1928-31)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-16-2017, 01:53 PM   #1
Beauford
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: VA
Posts: 569
Default F@#$ing Shackles

Ok...I have searched and have looked through my little red book. How in the heck do the shackle bushings to fit into the front axle perch or spring? Do I need another Henry Friendly tool??
Beauford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 01:59 PM   #2
Mitch//pa
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bucks County, PA
Posts: 11,454
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

I use the driver tool sold by the suppliers ... works great.for 10.00.it also works with other bushings, rear brake and camshaft etc... i get the pre reamed bushings...
Yes there are other methods, bolts and nuts, take your pick....usually a new spring comes with them installed

Last edited by Mitch//pa; 02-16-2017 at 02:10 PM.
Mitch//pa is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 02-16-2017, 02:07 PM   #3
Bob C
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: So Cal
Posts: 8,753
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

I just use a long bolt or all-thread a couple of washers and nuts to pull
the bushing in.

Bob
Bob C is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 02:56 PM   #4
Manager
Senior Member
 
Manager's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Birkdale, Qld,Aust
Posts: 170
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

You havn't got later model ones by mistake? They are bigger outside diam.
Manager is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 03:01 PM   #5
Beauford
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: VA
Posts: 569
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

THanks, the new spring has a bushing in it so do I need the silver one that came with the shackle with it or without?
Beauford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 03:08 PM   #6
30ccpickup
Senior Member
 
30ccpickup's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wakarusa, IN
Posts: 928
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
It helps to put the bushings in the freezer and warm the perch and/or spring.
__________________
http://MODELABASICS.com/ How Things Work on a Model "A" Ford

Fordbarners, Feel free to use the pictures on my site to answer questions and create tutorials/tech articles.
30ccpickup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 03:11 PM   #7
Beauford
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: VA
Posts: 569
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

30CC....I like fire! I'll give it a shot.

Mitch...I do have that tool you mentioned. Just slide the shackle bushing over and hammer? I foresee a order for shackle sleeves. LOL
Beauford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 03:27 PM   #8
Beauford
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: VA
Posts: 569
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

Quote:
Originally Posted by Manager View Post
You havn't got later model ones by mistake? They are bigger outside diam.
I looked back at my order and says they fit 28-31...I have a 30 frame so should be good. That was a good call though. Thanks!
Beauford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 03:42 PM   #9
Tom Wesenberg
Senior Member
 
Tom Wesenberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Mpls, MN
Posts: 27,582
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

Oil on the outside of the bushing helps it slide into place.
Tom Wesenberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 04:00 PM   #10
Beauford
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: VA
Posts: 569
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

Got it in the freezer...I've run the vendor tool in and out from both sides. It is getting more loose. The shackle is just a frog hair too big.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0382.JPG (91.8 KB, 141 views)
Beauford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 04:22 PM   #11
Beauford
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: VA
Posts: 569
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

Fire and ice...no go. Time to order different bushings from Brattons....
Beauford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 04:38 PM   #12
SeaSlugs
Senior Member
 
SeaSlugs's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Central, IL
Posts: 3,968
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

On mine I had to ream out the bushings once I pressed them in. Didnt take much just a quick ream in a drill , blew the debris out, then greased up the shackles and slid em in.
__________________
1929 Model AA - Need long splash aprons!
SeaSlugs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 06:26 PM   #13
Tom Wesenberg
Senior Member
 
Tom Wesenberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Mpls, MN
Posts: 27,582
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beauford View Post
Got it in the freezer...I've run the vendor tool in and out from both sides. It is getting more loose. The shackle is just a frog hair too big.
The last set that I bought from Bratton's about 15 years ago, I bought the shackle set plus the separate bushings. The separate bushings and the shackle together fit perfectly with no reaming.
Tom Wesenberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 06:37 PM   #14
Beauford
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: VA
Posts: 569
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

Maybe just me but this knock off stuff from vendors is questionable. Having a problem as well getting holes lined up flush for pin on cam and service brake leaver. Lever is flush with top of Cam but holes are off.....
Beauford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 07:20 PM   #15
Beauford
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: VA
Posts: 569
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg View Post
The last set that I bought from Bratton's about 15 years ago, I bought the shackle set plus the separate bushings. The separate bushings and the shackle together fit perfectly with no reaming.
Tom, I saw that from my search. If it works for "Tom" then it has to work for me!!
Beauford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 07:27 PM   #16
updraught
Senior Member
 
updraught's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,971
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

Are you using these "replacement" type shackles in the "New Parts" section of Bratton's cattle dog?

https://www.brattons.com/new-parts.html?p=5
updraught is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 07:38 PM   #17
Terry, NJ
Senior Member
 
Terry, NJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bucks Co, Pa
Posts: 3,740
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

I'm not trying to belittle you in any way. But the perch bushings are usually pretty easy to assemble. In the last thirty or forty years, the bushings no longer need reaming with a drill. I have a drill, it's a 14.5 MM and it's for sale. If you're having a lot lot trouble, you may have the wrong parts.
Terry
Terry, NJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 07:51 PM   #18
Beauford
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: VA
Posts: 569
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

Terry...no harm here. All I am saying is the silver bushing on shackle will not go into the perch. The originals to several days to get out as they were rusted to a solid bond. They are correct for the year but bushing is too large. I have seen this problem on here and HAMB so it does happen. I'll see how the Brattons fit. I bought these early on before I knew quality vendors. Let's just say its one of the really big ones. There could lie the problem as well.

Updraught..The shackles are not from Brattons but the replacement bushings will be. I like the slit through the length that will give it some give.
Beauford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 08:08 PM   #19
Dick Steinkamp
Senior Member
 
Dick Steinkamp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Bellingham, WA
Posts: 1,163
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

Quote:
Originally Posted by Manager View Post
You havn't got later model ones by mistake? They are bigger outside diam.
Are there different size bushings for different year Model A's, or do you mean different size for cars newer than Model A's?
__________________
All steel from pedal to wheel
Dick Steinkamp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 09:13 PM   #20
JBill
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 702
Default Re: F@#$ing Shackles

I just pressed mine in with a large bench vise.
JBill is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:03 AM.