02-22-2018, 09:32 AM | #1 |
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Engine install
What is the best way to reinstall the engine/transmission. Trans/ bell housing first then engine or engine/ transmission as a unit?
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02-22-2018, 10:17 AM | #2 |
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Body off, one unit! Body on separate!
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02-22-2018, 10:20 AM | #3 |
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If you have them both out, then install them as a unit.
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02-22-2018, 10:34 AM | #4 |
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NO, I am NOT pulling the body off to put the engine in. I do have them both out to change the transmission to the new synchronized one from Michell and change the clutch/pressure plate plus a new ring gear. I took it out as a unit so the best way is to install it the same way? Any tips to help make it a smooth one man job?
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02-22-2018, 10:55 AM | #5 |
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If I am working alone, one at a time. If two or more as a unit.
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02-22-2018, 01:38 PM | #6 |
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As the motor is being worked into place, slip the stud into the proper bellhousing hole. The studs will cause the two parts to align when the margin of space is equal all the way around the mating components. I raise the bellhousing and transmission with a floor jack to help align the parts. Once aligned, a slight rotation of the crankshaft will allow the splined shaft to align with the clutch disc. Further in, turn the crankshaft some more and the transmission input shaft stub will slip into the pilot bearing. I remove and install about two engines a month by myself and find this method the least effort. I will add some photos later (when I get to my shop this evening) to help you understand the stud shape and placement Good Day! Last edited by Dave in MN; 02-22-2018 at 01:53 PM. |
02-22-2018, 01:58 PM | #7 |
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I put them in as a unit. This is about as resolving as what kind of oil to use, isn't it?
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02-22-2018, 02:11 PM | #8 |
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I do them separate also.
While the flywheel is off and you are installing a new clutch, be sure to set the pressure plate fingers to 11/16" while it's all on the bench. |
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02-22-2018, 03:48 PM | #10 |
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Are you sure on 11/16? The books I have say 5/8", Les Andrews, vol 1, pg 1-148, the info sheet that came with the rebuild pressure plate, and the gauge to check them from Bratton's, all 5/8".
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02-22-2018, 04:38 PM | #11 |
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Pack your universal with lots of grease before installation.
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Done it by myself as one unit. Leave the accelerator linkage off when going in until engine is in the mounts.
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02-22-2018, 07:58 PM | #14 | |
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I am doing it two parts with the guide studs after I pack the U joint. I am also 73 and I got the car in 1960. |
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Either way is a pain in the ass... I would install them separately, less weight you have to wrestle when trying to get the motor into the mounts.
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Looks like you just need to use your own opinion and install it however you feel will work for you
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I do it like Dave except I jack up one of the rear wheels. Then put it in high gear turn the wheel real slow until it picks up the transmission spline. Just put the engine with my home made overhead in my roadster today.
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The clutch measurement for the 6 fingers is from where the throw out bearing contacts the fingers to a straight edge laid across the face of the pressure plate.
11/16" is the Ford spec., and I've also heard or read where some call for 5/8" and 3/4". I'm sure you'll get by with those 2 dimensions, but I like to go by what Ford called for. See picture in replay 48 in this link. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...e+tools&page=3 Last edited by Tom Wesenberg; 02-23-2018 at 08:02 AM. |
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Thanks Tom
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The engine and new transmission is in and happy. Thanks to all for your help. The alignment studs worked great.
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Interesting thread. Would it make any difference if you had a multi disc clutch. The body is not off but the fuel tank is. My concern is lining up the clutch.
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Bill Williamson, The reason I always install the engine in my own cars by myself is that to do otherwise would take too much of other peoples time. There was a time that I could install the engine alone in less than half a day. Now it takes me that long to find my tools. Since I passed 80, I have slowed some. I will help others but hesitate to get help on things I can do myself because of how slowly I work. And I may just find that I need a nap as well. Can't miss that if the ticker is out of sync. Been good the last several months since last time they electrocuted me and brought me back. All fun stuff as you know. I use jacks and lifts a lot now where I used to horse things that weighed less than 400 pounds. Now if it's 50 lbs. or more i use some device, other than my back, to get it where I want it. Much less painful I have found. I do enjoy working on the fool machines though.
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I put them in and out as a unit several times. I can install one in a 1/2 a day
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Daveymc29: in your avatar, you don’t look a day over 3
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Do as a unit,don't stress the flywheel housing any more than you have too.Not a bad idea to check it for alignment to the crankshaft especially when installing such a nice transmission
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