312 2 barrel

[34pickup]

Did Ford (not Merc) ever put a 2 barrel intake on a 312 in 1957? I have always believed that all 312s in the Ford line were 4 barrels in 1957.

[dmsfrr]

Is it the original engine, still in the car? What is the first letter of the serial number of the car?

The factory ('C' code) base model '57 T-Bird had a 2bbl carb but it was on a 292.
I suspect the other models would have been the same.
The dealer or a previous owner could have made the change after shipment from the factory.

Scroll down the page at this link...
http://www.oldcarbrochures.org/index...ID-Guide-04-05

Previous link is page 3 of this booklet...
http://www.oldcarbrochures.org/index...rd-Model-Guide


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[34pickup]

Its a rhetorical question.

edit:
I guess I dont know what rhetorical means. It was meant to be a general question, no specific vehicle involved.

[paul2748]

Possibly on the Merc in 57. Not sure what carb was on it. I believe the 312 was the base Mercury engine in 1957, certainly was in 1958 to 1960.

Originally Posted by 34pickup

Did Ford (not Merc) ever put a 2 barrel intake on a 312 in 1957? I have always believed that all 312s in the Ford line were 4 barrels in 1957.

[dmsfrr]

Originally Posted by paul2748

Possibly on the Merc in 57. Not sure what carb was on it. I believe the 312 was the base Mercury engine in 1957, certainly was in 1958 to 1960.

Here's a link to an intake manifold Application Chart for Ford cars, trucks and Mercury's. (scroll down to the 3rd chart)
It does show a 2bbl intake was used on some Mercury 312's in '57, '58 & '59.... but not on 312 Fords.

http://www.y-block.info/casting/intake.html

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[34pickup]

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Thanks. Thats what I thought, Merc only.

[Ole Don]

At one time I had a 56 Merc, base four door, three speed, 312 with a tea pot four barrel.
Dont know if it was a special order, fleet car, or just came that way. This was in 57, bought as a low mile unmolested wreck.

[scicala]

Lets set it straight. The only 312's that left the factory with a 2 barrel carb were Mercury's in '59 thru '60. Mercury offered a 312 4 barrel in '57 and '58. Ford cars never used a 2 barrel on the 312. Fords offered 312 four barrels in '56 and '57 only. Like mentioned previously, the '57 Ford and T-Bird offered a 292 with a two barrel (base T-Bird engine in '57). Also, 312's were never originally installed in trucks.

Sal

[scicala]

Also, all Merc's in '54, '55 and '56 used only 4 barrel carbs (Teapot design).

Sal

[scicala]

I could be wrong on '58 Merc's with 312 four barrels. Maybe 2 barrel only.

Sal

[Oldmics]

Merc MPC book says 57 - 312 engine used 4 bbl carbs only.

58 - 312 used BOTH 2 & 4 bbl carbs

59 - 312 used 2 bbl carbs

Oldmics

and ALL of the trucks that I have ever seen with a Y Block were 312 engines

[scicala]

"ALL of the trucks that I have ever seen with a Y Block were 312 engines"


Sorry, but I don't believe that. Since the Y-Block started in '54, trucks used 239's, 256's, 272's and 292's depending on the model year. Never a 312 in a truck. Just passenger cars and Marine used 312's.

Sal

[paul2748]

I thinks Old Mics was being facetious (sp?)

It's the old story - every Y Block is a 312 unless proven otherwise

[Oldmics]

Yeah, I was just being a clown

Sal"s keeping the record straight. No 312s in trucks from the factory . Not even Mercury trucks.

Oldmics

[Y-Blockhead]

Originally Posted by scicala

Also, all Merc's in '54, '55 and '56 used only 4 barrel carbs (Teapot design).
Sal

Sal, Way back I had a '54 "Police Special" with a Carter WCFB. Do you know if that was the carb that came from the factory for the Police cars or did someone add that later. I have always been curious about that.

There were other things about that car that were different from a standard sedan such as having the bigger station wagon rear end and sway bars. I seem to remember it had the 256" and O/D also.

It all looked original but who knows.

Thanks.

[scicala]

Sorry Oldmics. That one went over my head. I didn't notice the smiley faces after your note. Yes, every Y-Block for sale is a 312. Lol

Y-Blockhead,

The '54 Fords Police Interceptor was a Mercury 256 Y-Block. The car you mentioned must have had the carb replaced somewhere along the line. It came with a unique Holley 2140 4 barrel that had a hand throttle lever on the pass. side of the carb. I guess so they could elevate the idle RPM for better battery charging. The carb was LIST # 885. Yes, the interceptor did get the station wagon Dana rear axle too. There used to be a '54 Police brochure on the Old Car Manual Project, but last time I looked it was gone.
The only WCFB's used were on some '56 Mercury's with vacuum secondaries and on '57 Lincolns. Lincoln Mercury seemed to like Carter carburetors more than Ford.

Sal

[Y-Blockhead]

Good info, thanks Sal. It was definitely faster than a regular '54 in a drag race.

[scicala]

Yes, those 239 Y-Blocks were pretty enemic. Faster that the previous year's 239 flathead, but not much.

Sal

[Gene F]

My 57 Fairlane has a 292, and it runs great.

[JeffB2]

Originally Posted by scicala

Sorry Oldmics. That one went over my head. I didn't notice the smiley faces after your note. Yes, every Y-Block for sale is a 312. Lol

Y-Blockhead,

The '54 Fords Police Interceptor was a Mercury 256 Y-Block. The car you mentioned must have had the carb replaced somewhere along the line. It came with a unique Holley 2140 4 barrel that had a hand throttle lever on the pass. side of the carb. I guess so they could elevate the idle RPM for better battery charging. The carb was LIST # 885. Yes, the interceptor did get the station wagon Dana rear axle too. There used to be a '54 Police brochure on the Old Car Manual Project, but last time I looked it was gone.
The only WCFB's used were on some '56 Mercury's with vacuum secondaries and on '57 Lincolns. Lincoln Mercury seemed to like Carter carburetors more than Ford.

Sal

I have the supplement manual like this one back section is about the 1954 Interceptors https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-19...kAAOSwDwlZc-Mp