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Old 08-24-2021, 11:58 AM   #1
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Default 4 speed trans ID help

Any input greatly appreciated on this trans.
I know it's a 4 speed from an early to mid '50's Ford truck.
Is it a BW T8? BW T98? Or something else?
Numbers on the left side are WG CO T8D 3A.
I'd like to know what it is as I need a new rear seal and an output yoke, but not sure what to look for.
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Edit: I attached pics but they didn't seem to come up.


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Old 08-24-2021, 01:28 PM   #2
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DZL Jim, welcome aboard. Check the size of your photos, that is usually the issue with pictures failing to load. There are several recent discussions about uploading photos on this forum. Use the search function if you need further information on posting photos on the forum.
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Old 08-24-2021, 02:14 PM   #3
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Well shoot, I can't change the pic size since its only allowing for a url based pic and it's in my google Photos. I have smaller pics on my computer but no way to post them.
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Old 08-24-2021, 03:00 PM   #4
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Just use browse not the ULR and you can upload your picture from your computer.
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Old 08-24-2021, 03:19 PM   #5
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Thanks for the suggestion Bob, but that's not an option when I try to load a pic. Only thing it shows me is where I insert a URL address.
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Old 08-24-2021, 05:10 PM   #6
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Thanks for the suggestion Bob, but that's not an option when I try to load a pic. Only thing it shows me is where I insert a URL address.

JIM .....Can you e-mail the pictures to me? I can PROBABLY post them here for you. My e-mail BELOW! DD


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Old 08-25-2021, 07:54 AM   #7
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JIM .....Can you e-mail the pictures to me? I can PROBABLY post them here for you. My e-mail BELOW! DD
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Email sent, thank you!
I am working with a web/computer guy to see what I can do about linking pics.
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:25 AM   #8
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Attached is a link to a recent discussion that may help you or your computer guy to understand how to post pictures on this forum. Hope this helps.

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Old 08-25-2021, 08:48 AM   #9
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4 spd trans 2.jpg
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Well I'll be, learned something new today. Thanks!

Now, going back to my original post/questions, any thoughts?
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Old 08-25-2021, 10:48 AM   #10
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Well I'll be, learned something new today. Thanks!

Now, going back to my original post/questions, any thoughts?

WOW ....You GO, Jim! So, no need for me to post your pics, but we'll make the interesting one BIG, anyway.





What's REALLY important here is that you found out just how EASY it is to post pictures on The 'Barn. That's likely to turn-out to almost be worth more than that funny transmission. I'm proud that you got the pics posted so easily! DD

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Old 08-26-2021, 11:39 AM   #11
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Looks Canadian Ford. They didn't use the hogs head on theirs but I can't see the parting line area well enough to tell for sure. It's painted like a Ford tractor. It's likely the same or similar to the basic T8 & T9 type Borg Warner 4-speed crash box that Ford used for so long.

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Old 08-26-2021, 01:29 PM   #12
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Looks Canadian Ford. They didn't use the hogs head on theirs but I can't see the parting line area well enough to tell for sure. It's painted like a Ford tractor. It's likely the same or similar to the basic T8 & T9 type Borg Warner 4-speed crash box that Ford used for so long.
It's in a '55 Worthington tractor, which used parts from the Ford F1 & F2/3 trucks, and Ford tractors of the day. I do believe the case is separate from the bell.
Thanks for the info.
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Old 08-26-2021, 02:42 PM   #13
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Some info I copied up from another forum. Helps me, thought I'd share:

"T8 and T9 are the same transmission... the cases are marked WG T8. The case on the transmission out of my '49 F4 is marked T 8 D-1A. The other side of the case is 59T-7006, 1945 truck. It is original to the '49."

"The case used from 1945-1951 has a part number 59T-7006 and did not use the external reverse lock out. The 59T cases have a removable half bell and are also marked W.G., then in a second line, T 8 D-1A."

"1948/56 truck parts catalog lists two 4 speeds: Warner T-9 & Warner T-98."
"...no T8's after '47. 1948 thru '50 they are T9's, and 51-52 had T98."

Looks like the numbers I originally posted were incorrect, and they are probably WG T8D-1A. I'll have to check the numbers on the other side for kicks to confirm the 59T designation, but it looks like I have a T98 since it's a '55 model. I'll know more when I get it pulled off.
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Jim,

A bit of a side question, but do you happen to be a member on FTE?

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Old 08-27-2021, 12:12 PM   #15
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A bit of a side question, but do you happen to be a member on FTE?

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Jim,

Nice to see you here. Maybe one of these days I'll send you some injectors if I get off my butt.

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