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Bob NH · 11-01-2013, 02:41 PM

I have a question, what kind of noise would a person expect to hear in the clutch area if there was a failure or one about to take place ? When I bought this car three years ago it had a funny little tinkly sound going down the road in the clutch/transmission area but shifts fine and goes very well. The thought of pulling back the rear end and changing the throwout bearing drives me nuts thinking of all that work. At my age I don't bend all that easy any more and rolling around on a creeper is not very exciting!

deuce_roadster · 11-01-2013, 02:51 PM

I just replaced a NEW BCA T.O. bearing that lasted 6 miles, maybe a dozen clutch depressions. It sounded like a tin can full of marbles. The clutch was adjusted properly 1+ inch of freeplay, and was silent until depressing the pedal. It REALLY sucks. This was in a just restored 40 wagon. The bad bearing felt fine in my hand and seemed lubricated before installation. I don't know of any way to replicate the pressure it works under to test a new one so it is a crap shoot with these things. I pulled the engine, replaced it with another new bearing and it is fine so far.... Once again l learn that NEW does not = Good.

oldskool · 11-01-2013, 02:58 PM

if clutch is adjusted properly the throwout bearing would only make noise when clutch pedal is depressed

sonny · 11-01-2013, 03:20 PM

Agree with old school.

alan · 11-01-2013, 03:34 PM

hey Duece how about sharing with us a picture of that JUST FINISHED 40 wagon

Bob NH · 11-01-2013, 03:41 PM

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OK, what else might be a possible issue in that area ? All replies welcome. It would seem if the engine was getting all those $$ poured into it that it would only make sense to change the bearing while you had the thing apart. I contacted the former owner and he had no knowledge as to whether the bearing had been replaced or not.

Brendan · 11-01-2013, 04:38 PM

you should not have any noise at an idle and in neutral the only time the throughout baring is turning is when you have your foot on the clutch. when you go down the road with your foot off the clutch it is not making contact with the pressure plate and you should not hear any weird noises...Brendan

deuce_roadster · 11-01-2013, 06:02 PM

Alan, (and anyone else curious) click on my avatar, there is a public album with a few pictures of my wagon.

alan · 11-01-2013, 07:40 PM

I have the Lyon Blue 40 wagon, also known as alanwoodieman

deuce_roadster · 11-01-2013, 08:05 PM

I had a hunch that might be you! We have communicated in the past.

Binx · 11-01-2013, 09:34 PM

A "tink" could be an exhaust pipe hitting the frame. A bad throwout bearing would cause a roaring sound when with clutch depressed.

Lonnie

deuce_roadster · 11-01-2013, 10:23 PM

Any chance the starter drive is not coming clear out and occasionally touching the flywheel? As stated above T.O. bearing noise would always be worse when the clutch is depressed. If that isn't the case it is probably something else. Could something be coming in contact with the fan as you drive? The fan can make sounds appear to come from somewhere else. I have heard exhaust leaks sound "tinkly" in my brand x vehicles. It could even be something like a bad rt front wheel bearing or something in the hubcap.
Let us know when you find it. Good luck.

PeteVS · 11-02-2013, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by deuce_roadster

alan, (and anyone else curious) click on my avatar, there is a public album with a few pictures of my wagon.

nice!!!

Bob NH · 11-02-2013, 03:39 PM

Thanks very much guys for all the suggestions, I have not looked at it yet but will dig deeper and get back with a reply in the near future. Might get a couple more rides in yet seeing as we still are in early fall mode around these parts.

11-01-2013, 02:41 PM	#1
Bob NH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Meredith, N.H. Posts: 766	Throw out bearing I have a question, what kind of noise would a person expect to hear in the clutch area if there was a failure or one about to take place ? When I bought this car three years ago it had a funny little tinkly sound going down the road in the clutch/transmission area but shifts fine and goes very well. The thought of pulling back the rear end and changing the throwout bearing drives me nuts thinking of all that work. At my age I don't bend all that easy any more and rolling around on a creeper is not very exciting!

11-01-2013, 02:51 PM	#2
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,800	Re: Throw out bearing I just replaced a NEW BCA T.O. bearing that lasted 6 miles, maybe a dozen clutch depressions. It sounded like a tin can full of marbles. The clutch was adjusted properly 1+ inch of freeplay, and was silent until depressing the pedal. It REALLY sucks. This was in a just restored 40 wagon. The bad bearing felt fine in my hand and seemed lubricated before installation. I don't know of any way to replicate the pressure it works under to test a new one so it is a crap shoot with these things. I pulled the engine, replaced it with another new bearing and it is fine so far.... Once again l learn that NEW does not = Good.

11-01-2013, 02:58 PM	#3
oldskool Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: shirley ny Posts: 992	Re: Throw out bearing if clutch is adjusted properly the throwout bearing would only make noise when clutch pedal is depressed

11-01-2013, 03:20 PM	#4
sonny Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Mantua, Ohio Posts: 269	Re: Throw out bearing Agree with old school.

11-01-2013, 03:34 PM	#5
alan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: UPSTATESC Posts: 669	Re: Throw out bearing hey Duece how about sharing with us a picture of that JUST FINISHED 40 wagon

11-01-2013, 03:41 PM	#6
Bob NH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Meredith, N.H. Posts: 766	Re: Throw out bearing Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) OK, what else might be a possible issue in that area ? All replies welcome. It would seem if the engine was getting all those $$ poured into it that it would only make sense to change the bearing while you had the thing apart. I contacted the former owner and he had no knowledge as to whether the bearing had been replaced or not.

11-01-2013, 04:38 PM	#7
Brendan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 2,903	Re: Throw out bearing you should not have any noise at an idle and in neutral the only time the throughout baring is turning is when you have your foot on the clutch. when you go down the road with your foot off the clutch it is not making contact with the pressure plate and you should not hear any weird noises...Brendan __________________ If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya! i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!

11-01-2013, 06:02 PM	#8
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,800	Re: Throw out bearing Alan, (and anyone else curious) click on my avatar, there is a public album with a few pictures of my wagon.

11-01-2013, 07:40 PM	#9
alan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: UPSTATESC Posts: 669	Re: Throw out bearing I have the Lyon Blue 40 wagon, also known as alanwoodieman

11-01-2013, 08:05 PM	#10
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,800	Re: Throw out bearing I had a hunch that might be you! We have communicated in the past.

11-01-2013, 09:34 PM	#11
Binx Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Gloucester VA Posts: 1,042	Re: Throw out bearing A "tink" could be an exhaust pipe hitting the frame. A bad throwout bearing would cause a roaring sound when with clutch depressed. Lonnie

11-01-2013, 10:23 PM	#12
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,800	Re: Throw out bearing Any chance the starter drive is not coming clear out and occasionally touching the flywheel? As stated above T.O. bearing noise would always be worse when the clutch is depressed. If that isn't the case it is probably something else. Could something be coming in contact with the fan as you drive? The fan can make sounds appear to come from somewhere else. I have heard exhaust leaks sound "tinkly" in my brand x vehicles. It could even be something like a bad rt front wheel bearing or something in the hubcap. Let us know when you find it. Good luck.

11-02-2013, 03:39 PM	#14
Bob NH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Meredith, N.H. Posts: 766	Re: Throw out bearing Thanks very much guys for all the suggestions, I have not looked at it yet but will dig deeper and get back with a reply in the near future. Might get a couple more rides in yet seeing as we still are in early fall mode around these parts.