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marcwoody · 08-20-2018, 11:20 PM

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Came out of a 21 stud motor. I believe it's 1937-38
I think the rods are 42?. Looking to replace the bearing if possible
and where to find them
THANKS

Brian · 08-21-2018, 12:07 AM

You are correct; they are outta a 221. That rod/bearing setup was used in the English 'V8 Pilots'. Those bearings nowadays are impossible to find. All is not lost however; The American flanged full floater style bearings [1932-38] will be a direct replacement. One advantage with using those existing rods is that, generally, because the previous bearings are the 'lock in' style, the big ends of the rods tend to not be worn oversized/oval, as happens with full floaters. Consequently, generally you can run floaters with a standard size o/d. Obviously, measure everything up, don't worry about the double oil holes in the journals; the floaters will run quite happily on them.

Ken/Alabama · 08-21-2018, 12:21 AM

Don't know what undersize you need but I have some flanged bearings in limited sizes and the 81-A bearings without the flange in many undersizes. Also have main bearings that will fit your engine.

Ol' Ron · 08-21-2018, 01:20 PM

I can't really answer your question here. However you are in for a trip here. The fanged bearing crank had a wider bearing area to make room for the flange, Not sure if the inside dimension of the rod is the right size for the floating bearing. The stock bearing needs a 2.220" rod which I hone out to 2,2215. If you have fit the bearing shell to the crank and rod. I do this on a ground flywheel and tap the bearing with a dead blow hammer until it moves in the rod and crank. I have all this in my book. Start measuring before you buy anything, as this is very expensive.

russcc · 08-21-2018, 07:12 PM

Fred at SSO will know which ones you need, and more than likely have NOS ones in stock. Barnfind08 here on the barn.

deuce lover · 08-22-2018, 11:34 AM

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Colin S · 08-27-2018, 09:39 AM

Hi Marcwoody...I have sets of Ford UK NOS connecting rod bearings for the Pilot engine at .010 oversize and also main bearings...let me know if I can help. No problem in shipping to you. If in dout about buying from the UK check my name in the EFV8 Club roster. Regards..Colin.

08-20-2018, 11:20 PM	#1
marcwoody Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: CAMAS WA Posts: 5	Help with rod bearings IMG_2792.jpg IMG_2800.jpg IMG_2804.jpg Came out of a 21 stud motor. I believe it's 1937-38 I think the rods are 42?. Looking to replace the bearing if possible and where to find them THANKS

08-21-2018, 12:07 AM	#2
Brian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Masterton, New Zealand Posts: 3,836	Re: Help with rod bearings You are correct; they are outta a 221. That rod/bearing setup was used in the English 'V8 Pilots'. Those bearings nowadays are impossible to find. All is not lost however; The American flanged full floater style bearings [1932-38] will be a direct replacement. One advantage with using those existing rods is that, generally, because the previous bearings are the 'lock in' style, the big ends of the rods tend to not be worn oversized/oval, as happens with full floaters. Consequently, generally you can run floaters with a standard size o/d. Obviously, measure everything up, don't worry about the double oil holes in the journals; the floaters will run quite happily on them. __________________ Unfortunately, two half wits don't make a whole wit!

08-21-2018, 12:21 AM	#3
Ken/Alabama Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 3,263	Re: Help with rod bearings Don't know what undersize you need but I have some flanged bearings in limited sizes and the 81-A bearings without the flange in many undersizes. Also have main bearings that will fit your engine.

08-21-2018, 01:20 PM	#4
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,862	Re: Help with rod bearings I can't really answer your question here. However you are in for a trip here. The fanged bearing crank had a wider bearing area to make room for the flange, Not sure if the inside dimension of the rod is the right size for the floating bearing. The stock bearing needs a 2.220" rod which I hone out to 2,2215. If you have fit the bearing shell to the crank and rod. I do this on a ground flywheel and tap the bearing with a dead blow hammer until it moves in the rod and crank. I have all this in my book. Start measuring before you buy anything, as this is very expensive.

08-21-2018, 07:12 PM	#5
russcc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,871	Re: Help with rod bearings Fred at SSO will know which ones you need, and more than likely have NOS ones in stock. Barnfind08 here on the barn.

08-22-2018, 11:34 AM	#6
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,308	Re: Help with rod bearings Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I got mine for my 36LB in March off EBAY -030 + 10.$135.They are full floating .Some sellers are wanting $495 a set.

08-27-2018, 09:39 AM	#7
Colin S Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 16	Re: Help with rod bearings Hi Marcwoody...I have sets of Ford UK NOS connecting rod bearings for the Pilot engine at .010 oversize and also main bearings...let me know if I can help. No problem in shipping to you. If in dout about buying from the UK check my name in the EFV8 Club roster. Regards..Colin.