replacing fuel line.

[FrankWest]

Originally Posted by DavidG

Reading the last two sentences of your #15 post, one can easily conclude that.

just talking...
Does the Siamese line come divided/split at the ends to allow connections or do i have to split them apart there?

[DavidG]

It comes with the splits/divisions where they were originally as Mike makes them using a copy of the original engineering drawing. The fittings on the ends of the lines need to be installed and the ferrules soldered as was done originally for leak-free connections.

[FrankWest]

Originally Posted by DavidG

It comes with the splits/divisions where they were originally as Mike makes them using a copy of the original engineering drawing. The fittings on the ends of the lines need to be installed and the ferrules soldered as was done originally for leak-free connections.

thanks

[FrankWest]

Originally Posted by DavidG

Mike McKennett of Reproductions and Restorations, Portland, OR makes the correct '33 4-cylinder fuel air line Siamesed as original from Bundy (copper-plated wrapped steel tubing) complete with the correct fittings. The standard and deluxe models used the same lines and all of the four-cylinder lines were clamped to the bottom rail of the frame. Please re-read post number seven.

You will take your life in your hands by using a copper (only) fuel line. There was a good reason why Ford specified the more expensive copper/steel tubing. (You say you want the car to say original, but you seem to be wavering on that idea.)

I talked with Mike McKennett of Reproductions and Restorations, Portland, OR
They said they do not sell these fuel lines? I guess there was not great demand. Will the v8 duel lines from Mac's Work? I hate to go to Mac's for something like this?

[jim1932]

Originally Posted by FrankWest

I talked with Mike McKennett of Reproductions and Restorations, Portland, OR
They said they do not sell these fuel lines? I guess there was not great demand. Will the v8 duel lines from Mac's Work? I hate to go to Mac's for something like this?

If it is a matter of volume, I would be interested in a correct set up as well.

[Steve Staysko]

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Call Roy Nacewicz I bought the fuel line from him and it comes with the splits/divisions and all the fittings. I will be installing it within the next few week in my 34 roadster frame and if you'd like me to post pictures let me know.

[DavidG]

Things seem to be getting a little confused here. The lines for '32 fours, '33-'34 fours, and '33-'34 V-8s are all distinctly different. The LHD V-8 lines are routed down the left side of the chassis frame and those of the fours are routed down the right side of the frame. Then there's the 6" difference in wheel base between '32s and '33-'34s plus a major difference in the location of the fuel gauge on the instrument panel/dash which dictates the length of the forward portion of the air line.

I'm pretty sure that Mike's team makes the '32 four-cylinder lines and I was surprised to learn that the '33-'34 four-cylinder line is no longer available as they made one for me a couple of years ago. Follow Steve's advice and ask Roy to see if he can obtain one for you.

[FrankWest]

The authentic lines are not just two lines soldered together, right? because before i got this post i called AllFordParts and they provide a line made up of two lines soldered together.

[DavidG]

More like fused together than soldered, but what distinguishes one from another are the lengths of the two lines and where the lines part both front and rear, especially at the front. And. of course, how the tubing was/is made, namely copper-plated steel wrapped to form a double wall thickness.

[FrankWest]

The guy at allFordParts said the Siamese lines were shipped straight attached to a 20 ft 2 by 4? Crazy. I later spoke to Roy N... And he said he can have it made up and the line are welded? Didn't know you can weld copper, steel line with copper plating? Maybe plated after being welded? anyway.. Roy ships the, coil in 3 ft coils. Sounds more reasonable than shipping a 20 ft long tube. The things ya gotta know!

[DavidG]

It's more like fusion than welding and takes place in the presence of heat and hydrogen.

[Steve Staysko]

Here is the 33-34 V8 Fuel line that I bought from Roy Nacewicz with the required fittings and the second photo shows how the lines are fused together.

[FrankWest]

Originally Posted by Steve Staysko

Here is the 33-34 V8 Fuel line that I bought from Roy Nacewicz with the required fittings and the second photo shows how the lines are fused together.

Thanks for taking the time to photograph....Means a lot

I will be ordering from Roy...
Thanks again.

[FrankWest]

Discovery... My car already has an old "original" Siamese fuel line! Saw if Back near the gas tank! It must be original line outside somewhat encrusted like something from the titanic!
I know it goes to the fuel pump, but that is after the fuel gauge line separates from it.
See photos 0f the small Siemens air line. highlighted in yellow.

[FrankWest]

The question now, is why did they put that strange curve in the fuel line near the fuel pump?
Can I splice a length of small air line to hook it up to my fuel gauge? I know the fuel line is open but I may have to snake out the small air line to make sure it is open before I hook it up.

[DavidG]

It is not likely the original line as the fuel line is too long as has been mentioned several times previously on this site. It could be from a V-8 which has a longer fuel line or from some other application in the 1932-35 period when these types of siamesed lines were in use. Or, less likely, been lengthened as part of a repair.

[FrankWest]

What do you think? Should I rework the existing line "take out the loop" and splice a length of the smaller tube for the fuel gauge..or just replace the entire line?

[DavidG]

If it were my car I would replace the whole line; a reliable flow of fuel is what you depend on to get you back home.

[FrankWest]

Originally Posted by DavidG

If it were my car I would replace the whole line; a reliable flow of fuel is what you depend on to get you back home.

you are right! Sometimes I get carried away trying to keep as much original as possible. There is a danger not having the right stuff on a functioning car.

[FrankWest]

Here is photo of fuel sender unit.
I guess the new fuel line and air line screw into the red dots indicated ports.
What are those tubes indicated by the red arrows?