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06-18-2012, 05:53 PM | #1 |
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Standard bearing parts numbers?
Does anyone know if there is a chart or cross-reference for standard parts numbers for Model A transmission and throw-out bearings? I'd like to be able to go to my local bearing supplier and just buy OTC.
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06-18-2012, 07:05 PM | #2 |
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Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
The bearing supplier can cross them.
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06-18-2012, 07:58 PM | #3 |
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Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
But he or she will need something besides the description, no? I can't just go in and say, I want all the bearings for a 1929 Ford 3-speed tranny. At least, I don't think I can. I guess I could try.
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Contact Set (HYPERLINK "http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.aspx?A=ECHCS30_0221962666&An=599001+101930+ 50026+2026063"PointsHYPERLINK "http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.aspx?A=ECHCS30_0221962666&An=599001+101930+ 50026+2026063") Product Line: Echlin Ignition Per Car Qty.: 1 Compare ECH CS30Price Unit 19.99 Each Voltage Regulator Product Line: Echlin Ignition Per Car Qty.: 1 Compare ECH CU1This part can only be purchased from your local NAPA . Distributor Condenser Product Line: Echlin Ignition Per Car Qty.: 1 Compare ECH FA5 Price Unit 7.99 Each Distributor Rotor Product Line: Echlin Ignition Per Car Qty.: 1 Compare ECH FA3 Price Unit 11.49 Each Ignition Coil Product Line: Mileage Plus Electrical Per Car Qty.: 1 Compare MPE IC7SBPrice Unit 18.29 Each Ignition Coil Product Line: Echlin Ignition Per Car Qty.: 1 Compare ECH IC7 Price Unit 44.99 Each Ignition Coil Mounting Bracket Product Line: Echlin Ignition Per Car Qty.: 1 Compare ECH ICB15 Price Unit 7.49 Each Generator Brush Product Line: Echlin Ignition Per Car Qty.: 1 Compare ECH F403 Price Unit 2.49 Each This is from NoSurf Motorcraft DC-1 Condenser Motorcraft DP104 Point Set Points CS30 Echlin (original style) Points CS751 Echlin (new Ford style) Condenser FA5 Echlin Rotor FA3 Echlin This is from 30 Tudor Electrical: Motorcraft DC-1 Condenser Motorcraft DP104 Point Set Points CS30 Echlin (original style) Points CS751 Echlin (new Ford style) Condenser FA5 Echlin Rotor FA3 Echlin Condenser-Mallory Dist MA3 Echlin Starter Brushes F502 Echlin Spark Plug 561 Champion (Wl6Y) Spark Plug 3X Champion (avail on special order) Coil (6 volt) IC9 Echlin Coil (12 volt) IC14 Echlin (w/built in resistor) Generator Cutout CU1 Echlin Alternator (12 volt) 71273SE OCA (one wire, internal regulator) Battery (6 Vo1t) 7200 Exide Battery (8 Volt) 8201 Exide Battery (12 Volt) 843578 Exide LED Lights Tail light - http://www.unitedpacificind.com/storage/file10.pdf Marker lamps - http://vehiclelight.com/clli.html Light bulbs - http://www.superbrightleds.com Bulbs Taillight Bulb (6 volt) 63 GE Stoplight Bulb (6 volt) 1129 GE Taillight Bulb (12 volt) 89 GE Stoplight Bulb (12 volt) 1073 GE Rev A to above: Useful Electrical Parts info for Model A Points: Echlin CS30 (original style) Echlin CS751 (New Ford style) Echlin DP104 (Modern Style with modifed Upper and Lower Plate) Motorcraft DP104 Condenser: Echlin FA5 Echlin DC-1 (Modern style) Echlin MA3 (Mallory Distributor) Rotor: Echlin FA3 Coil: Echlin IC9 6V Echlin IC14 12V Spark Plugs: Champion 3X (Original Style available from parts Houses) W14 Colder Plug than W16 and Autolite 3076 W16Y Later Champion W18Y Hotter Champion if W16Y burns black TT10 Motorcraft Starter Brushes: Echlin F502 Generator Cut Out Echlin CU1 Fan Belt: Napa 5L430 43" Napa 5L440 44" Resistor for horn Ohmite RKS2RO when using 6V horn on 12V Conversion kit for GM 10SI and 12SI altenators to 1 wire Quick Start SE-590 Engine: Overhaul Gasket Set FS800C Victor Head Gasket Set HS800C Victor Intake/Exhaust Gasket MS9800 Victor Head Gasket 800C Victor Valve (Intake & Exhaust) 211-1558 NAPA Engine Valve Spring 212-1001 NAPA Engine Valve Seat Insert (Int) 218-8535 NAPA Engine Valve Seat Insert (Exh) 218-7535 NAPA Engine Piston (Std) 224-2625 NAPA Engine (also avail. .080 over) Piston Pin Bushing 223-3316 NAPA Engine Cylinder Repair Sleeve 226-8024 NAPA Engine Piston Ring Set (std) 506 Perfect Circle K&N Air Filters: To fit Air Maze filter kits suppplied by Model A part's vendors: Part E-9257, Round Air Filter, Height: 5.5 in (140 mm), Inside Diameter: 2 in (51 mm), Outside Diameter: 3.5 in (89 mm) See:httpHYPERLINK "http://www.knfilters.com/search/universal.aspx"://www.knfilters.com/search/universal.aspx Drive Train: Clutch Disk R604 Rayloc Pressure Plate CA1524 Rayloc Clutch Pilot Bearing 6203-2RSJ NAPA Bearing Clutch Release Bearing N1087 NAPA Bearing Clutch Alignment Tool 675-1626 Balkamp Wheels: Front Wheel Inner Bearing 15118 Timken Front Wheel Inner Race 15250X Timken Front Wheel Outer Bearing 9074 Timken Front Wheel Outer Race 9196 Timken Miscellaneous: Gas Cap for 30-31 703-1020 Balkamp Fan Belt 25-20426 NAPA Belts & Hoses (also try NAPA #5L430 or 5L440 which is 1" longer) Consider an industrial cog belt if you have a generator as it will fit around the smaller pully better - TR22425) Fuel Filter Gasket 730-9510 Balkamp (for glass bowl 30-31) Radiator Hose (1-3/4') 611 NAPA Belts & Hose Radiator Hose- (2") 613 NAPA Belts & Hose Spare Tire Lock 770-2441 Balkamp Bearings (Courtesy of www.jmodlea.coffeecup.com): PINION BEARINGS [799000Series] Cone (2 used) Ford Number B4211 – Bearing Number 28156 [799085] Pinion Double Cup Ford Number B4616 – Bearing Number 28314D, 28314XD [799086] DIFFERENTIAL BEARINGS Cone Ford Number B4221 – Bearing Number 28156 [799085] Cup Ford Number B4616 – Bearing Number 28317 [799087] MISC. BEARINGS {Ford Number} GENERATOR SHAFT BEARING(FRONT) {A10093} - 6203 2RS |
06-18-2012, 08:13 PM | #5 |
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Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
I have some information on my site...
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06-18-2012, 08:56 PM | #6 |
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06-19-2012, 02:57 AM | #7 |
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Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
Very useful info Mitch! Thanks for posting. I copied & pasted to Word for future reference!
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06-19-2012, 08:10 AM | #8 |
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Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
I did the same before I even read your post because the correct parts are very hard to find here in Mexico. This will help some!
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06-19-2012, 10:29 AM | #9 |
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Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
Thank you all. This is just what I need.
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07-29-2013, 12:26 PM | #10 |
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Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
Found this great site for finding cross referenced parts.
http://www.autopartoo.com/oem/timken/22168timken.html Just put your part number into the search window and it will spit out a bunch of part numbers from other manufacturers. One warning though; for numbers like 68 1225-A, for example, show as 681225A. The numbers it spits out may be minus a space or hyphen also, but the web sorts most of that out when you do a search for a part number. Surprisingly GM, Studebaker, Chrysler, Fiat, and others used a lot of the same parts under different part numbers. |
07-29-2013, 12:57 PM | #11 |
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Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
Also, Jim Mason had a complete Model A bearing and seal Xref list on his old site. I am not sure whether that still exists.
That list and some supplemental Ford stuff also exist on the HAMB in several forms...might be a difficult search. Trans bearing information is also on Vince's Model A Garage site, with a LOT of other good information. |
07-29-2013, 01:05 PM | #12 |
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Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
The problem I have had, ...and wonder if others have found this to be true is, most NAPA and mass-merchandiser parts houses cannot sell these items as cheaply as what the Snyders, Brattons, et/al seemingly can. Has anyone else tried pricing them in their locale??
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07-29-2013, 01:29 PM | #14 |
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Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
The main shaft bearing #A7065 is 1-114119 SKF, 1 Side sealed 208SZ SKF and 1306 Federal. Counter shaft bearing short and Main drive gear bearing A7118-A is 24780 Timken, F93324 SKF, J24-1256 RHC, 93328 Hyatt, and J-24-1248 BCA Federal Mogal. Counter Shaft bearing long #A7121 is 94216 Hyatt, J201632 Bowers and J-24-1256 BCA Federal Mogal. Transmission Main Drive Gear Bearing #A7025 is 306P Timken, 1-114118 SKF, 1 side seald 306SZ SKF and 3208 ND
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07-29-2013, 02:19 PM | #15 |
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Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
Also another problem I have found with bearings is even if you give them the Timken number that is no gaurantee you are going to get a Timken bearing. Most model A suppliers you can just about gaurantee you are going to get a genuine Timken bearing, not just whatever brand they send you based on parts interchange. Rod
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Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
I found the same thing as Brent, and since I usually need other parts I put them all on one order to save a bit on shipping.
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