The Ford Barn

dave in australia · 03-08-2011, 04:53 AM

I agree with Steve, the 29 business coupe is the best looking A made.

gweilbaker · 03-08-2011, 06:37 AM

Look at the back ground. What are those guys doing?!!!

Steve Ciccalone · 03-08-2011, 08:34 AM

This oval I own won a Henry Ford Award (I had nothing to do with it buying it some years later). It is a stunning car (Bonnie gray and Chelsea blue) and I fully agree with Pluck as it's my favorite body style as well. If anyone is doing one of these and would like detailed photos of the top I would gladly supply them. Achieving a good fit with the top is imperative to the overall appearance of the car.

Steve Plucker · 03-08-2011, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lycoming-8

Luke,

Would be interested to know what date is stamped on the fire wall. I am curious as I have a Feb 29 Business Coupe which does not have the oval window and never did. It is essentially a Very Late 1928 style, or a sport coupe without the landau irons, or zippered rear window. I have seen several of the oval window style over the years, but never another of the blind quarter style. Thanks.

You, more than likely, STILL have an original body style going into 1929 without the oval.

Yes, it would be interesting to me to just when the "oval window's" first appeared. If one knew the parts and part numbers of the assembly (A-54132: Quarter window glass "Channel"; A-54124: Quarter light "Glass"; A-37645-A: Quarter light glass "Insulation"; A-54120: Quarter light "Frame assembly--outside"; and A-54125: Quarter light "Frame inside"), one could kind of figure out, hopefully, when this assembly was "adopted" into service.

Of the above parts, A-54120, A-54124, A-54125, are all associated with Enginering Information (EI) #10700 Drawings for October 26, 1928. However it was not till March 27, 1929 that A-54132 (an essitional part of the assembly???) was represented in EI #12452. So without further research, it may be that the "oval window" appeared sometime after this date maybe? (even though you have a February 1929 dated gas tank)!

Is there anything in the Standards relating to this? Could not find.

There is an unrestored early 1928 Business Coupe here in Walla Walla which I have dated to about April/May 1928, about the time of it's introduction.

Pluck

Dave Mc · 03-08-2011, 09:56 AM

My car was produced 5 - 6 - 29 , Rose Beige / Seal Brown

Steve Ciccalone · 03-08-2011, 10:07 AM

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Pluck, my coupe has a body date of 3/29/29. I had an unrestored one that I sold that was 3/19/29 that came from Chicago assembly. My guess is that they weren't out until Feb/March '29 with the oval windows. Hope you can get that early one.

Steve Plucker · 03-08-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Ciccalone

Pluck, my coupe has a body date of 3/29/29. I had an unrestored one that I sold that was 3/19/29 that came from Chicago assembly. My guess is that they weren't out until Feb/March '29 with the oval windows. Hope you can get that early one.

Knowing the fellow who has it, I think it is only in my dreams plus a $20.00/bushel wheat crop!

Pluck

Tom Wesenberg · 03-08-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Ciccalone

Pluck, my coupe has a body date of 3/29/29. I had an unrestored one that I sold that was 3/19/29 that came from Chicago assembly. My guess is that they weren't out until Feb/March '29 with the oval windows. Hope you can get that early one.

Steve, of those 2 Coupes did they have:

Teacup, or drum taillight

2 tooth, or 7 tooth steering

Fluted or Twolite headlights

LukeDahlinger · 03-08-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by montanajohn

Luke -- Nice coupe. Were trunk liners standard equipment on the coupes? I haven't found any in the repop catalogs, but I intend to put them in my '31 coupe. Looks like it wouldn't be a major challenge to make my own. So your coupe is Andalusite blue -- very nice to see that Andalusite is actually blue. Mine is what I would call "Andalusite Black." Only looks a little blue in a glaring summer sun.

I wish I could say that was my car! The car was at an old car auction I attended so I took a few pics for my files and anyone else that might benefit from them.

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Originally Posted by Lycoming-8

Luke,

Would be interested to know what date is stamped on the fire wall. I am curious as I have a Feb 29 Business Coupe which does not have the oval window and never did. It is essentially a Very Late 1928 style, or a sport coupe without the landau irons, or zippered rear window. I have seen several of the oval window style over the years, but never another of the blind quarter style. Thanks.

I didn't see a date on the firewall, but there's a chance it was there and filled up with paint.

Steve Plucker · 03-08-2011, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

Steve, of those 2 Coupes did they have:

Teacup, or drum taillight

2 tooth, or 7 tooth steering

Fluted or Twolite headlights

PLUS...

Frames with forged or stamped running board brackets OR both?

Pluck

thebanjoman · 03-08-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gweilbaker

Look at the back ground. What are those guys doing?!!!

I want to say the guy in the red shirt misplaced his hearing aid...

1930artdeco · 03-08-2011, 11:33 AM

Is it my imagination or is the belt line under the top at an angle lilke a roadster?

Mike

kp · 03-08-2011, 11:46 AM

ie, Guys in the Background ,I think the Air Compressor is inside the Building and runnin while they are trying to talk.Very nice car ,I 'd love to drive it ,roof problem would'nt bother me .

nellis003 · 03-08-2011, 02:49 PM

Great to hear the different opinions on the car. I think we're going to have to take a closer look at the project. I'll keep you all posted and let you know if we end up taking it on.

Thanks,
Nick

Steve Ciccalone · 03-08-2011, 03:03 PM

Tom, Steve

Both have teacups.

Both have "Two-light" HL's

Both are two tooth

The restored one has stamped brackets. I can't recall on the unrestored car.

Ahooga · 03-08-2011, 05:36 PM

There were just over 37,000 built in 1928 and the same in 1929.

Ice man · 03-08-2011, 09:17 PM

Yrs ago, got a lead on a OLD car and when we went to see it, he tried to chase us with a 12 Gauge shot gun. We had $35.00 dollars and he changed his mind. It was an opera coupe with 19000 original miles and NO rust. Just setting in a garage waiting for us. I was 16, and now 72 and its along story. Buy it, very rare. Thats the only opera coupe I have ever seen in real life. Iceman

Steve Plucker · 03-08-2011, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ahooga

There were just over 37,000 built in 1928 and the same in 1929.

Well HELLO Mr. Dale Clinton...Welcome to the "BARN"!

I like it!

Pluck

JTW · 03-08-2011, 10:46 PM

Are these the same windows? I have had them along time, but not the car.

Steve Plucker · 03-08-2011, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Timothy Kelly

Similar - yes

Same - no

Tim,

Can you please explain the difference?

How would one pick out the 1929 Model A Business Coupe's Quarter Oval Windows over the rest?

What are the tell-tail signs one would look for?

Thanks.

Pluck

03-08-2011, 04:53 AM	#21
dave in australia Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 1,177	Re: Opera Coupe? I agree with Steve, the 29 business coupe is the best looking A made.

03-08-2011, 06:37 AM	#22
gweilbaker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lindenhurst, IL Posts: 792	Re: Opera Coupe? Look at the back ground. What are those guys doing?!!!

03-08-2011, 10:07 AM	#26
Steve Ciccalone Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: "Live Free or Die!" Posts: 510	Re: Opera Coupe? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Pluck, my coupe has a body date of 3/29/29. I had an unrestored one that I sold that was 3/19/29 that came from Chicago assembly. My guess is that they weren't out until Feb/March '29 with the oval windows. Hope you can get that early one. __________________ "A wet bird doesn't fly at night."

03-08-2011, 11:33 AM	#32
1930artdeco Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lynden, Wa Posts: 3,552	Re: Opera Coupe? Is it my imagination or is the belt line under the top at an angle lilke a roadster? Mike __________________ 1930 TownSedan (Briggs) 1957 Country Sedan

03-08-2011, 11:46 AM	#33
kp Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wimberley ,Tx. Posts: 232	Re: Opera Coupe? ie, Guys in the Background ,I think the Air Compressor is inside the Building and runnin while they are trying to talk.Very nice car ,I 'd love to drive it ,roof problem would'nt bother me .

03-08-2011, 02:49 PM	#34
nellis003 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 153	Re: Opera Coupe? Great to hear the different opinions on the car. I think we're going to have to take a closer look at the project. I'll keep you all posted and let you know if we end up taking it on. Thanks, Nick

03-08-2011, 03:03 PM	#35
Steve Ciccalone Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: "Live Free or Die!" Posts: 510	Re: Opera Coupe? Tom, Steve Both have teacups. Both have "Two-light" HL's Both are two tooth The restored one has stamped brackets. I can't recall on the unrestored car. __________________ "A wet bird doesn't fly at night."

03-08-2011, 05:36 PM	#36
Ahooga Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Missouri City, TX Posts: 7	Re: Opera Coupe? There were just over 37,000 built in 1928 and the same in 1929. __________________ Ahooga Around the World

03-08-2011, 09:17 PM	#37
Ice man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Southern Pines, N.Carolina Posts: 210	Re: Opera Coupe? Yrs ago, got a lead on a OLD car and when we went to see it, he tried to chase us with a 12 Gauge shot gun. We had $35.00 dollars and he changed his mind. It was an opera coupe with 19000 original miles and NO rust. Just setting in a garage waiting for us. I was 16, and now 72 and its along story. Buy it, very rare. Thats the only opera coupe I have ever seen in real life. Iceman