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Mitch//pa · 12-10-2014, 07:58 AM

what do you guys think of this plate...

raprice22 · 12-10-2014, 08:19 AM

It looks to be in remarkable condition. I don't know what the regulations are in Pennsylvania, but you should check to see if you can repaint the numbers/letters. Some states say that you cannot alter or restore a license plate. With your DMV permission, you could just install the plate on your '30 Model A.
Rog

Vin-tin · 12-10-2014, 08:20 AM

I like it Mitch. It's kind of a unique letter and number combo. Restore the paint and your good to go.
I recently talked to a notary about the old purple plates they no longer make

and the YOM plates. She said if an old plate number had not been registered for a few years, PENNDOT can re-issue that number on a new plate. If that happens, it kills the old plate.
I like the purple plates and wish they would bring them back.

62pan · 12-10-2014, 11:06 AM

Looking at Pa's website that plate is okay to use registration wise, not sure about the paint condition though.

jkeesey · 12-10-2014, 11:08 AM

I was told the plates must be in restored original condition. So perfect. I have a matched front and rear pair for my Model A but the number was reused so they are useless.

Cape Codder · 12-10-2014, 11:20 AM

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I think it is pretty neat and you should give it to me 'cause I live in MA and how neat would that be? LOL Good luck with working it thru the PA DMV!!

Mitch//pa · 12-10-2014, 11:21 AM

here in PA we can restore our plates for use or they must be legible for unrestored...

i thought this plate was cool not only because of the 123 but the MA which can stand for Model A or Mitch's Auto

the numbers were clear to use in the data base so i went for it and then sent it to tagdr.com for restoration...
i think it's a good fit for Lucy

Y-Blockhead · 12-10-2014, 11:42 AM

So you need just one plate in PA.? In California you need 2 plates. That make it more difficult to get YOM plates.

Mitch//pa · 12-10-2014, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead

So you need just one plate in PA.? In California you need 2 plates. That make it more difficult to get YOM plates.

Yes just one

those CA plates sell for big bucks

i bought this one for 9.99

BILL WILLIAMSON · 12-10-2014, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

Yes just one

those CA plates sell for big bucks

i bought this one for 9.99

Vermin has beautifully restored '29 California plates, Black, with Yellow letters, 14" long & with square corners. Cost me 2 arms & a leg, to purchase 3 plain chrome frames for them!!!
Often wondered, if I ran current plates on a Model A & painted them Black/Yellow, would JOHN LAW notice??????
Bill W.

Boston Bruce · 12-10-2014, 12:09 PM

Not a bad number Mitch. Nice painting job by the Dr.

1930_plate.jpg

Patrick L. · 12-10-2014, 12:36 PM

Thats a beauty ! He does nice work.

Y-Blockhead · 12-10-2014, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

Yes just one

those CA plates sell for big bucks

i bought this one for 9.99

Thankfully my YOM plates were on the car when I bought it.

Jeff/Illinois · 12-10-2014, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick L.

Thats a beauty ! He does nice work.

I'll say. Looks nice.

Vin-tin · 12-10-2014, 05:40 PM

What color combo is correct for Pennsylvania plates. I've seen some like the one Mitch has, but I also seen some with blue background with yellow letter/numbers. Why are they different?

62pan · 12-10-2014, 05:47 PM

Pa alternated colors blue and yellow each year starting in 1923 with 23 being blue with yellow numbers.

Mitch//pa · 12-10-2014, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vin-tin

What color combo is correct for Pennsylvania plates. I've seen some like the one Mitch has, but I also seen some with blue background with yellow letter/numbers. Why are they different?

Vin,
Ck this out some good info

http://www.ricksplates.com/pennsylva...ss1.htm#pass30

1930pu · 12-10-2014, 06:48 PM

Your plate looks great, Thanks for letting us know who restored it. I have a 1930 coupe and a 1930 rpu, I was able to get 2 1930 Pa. plates with all the numbers the same except the last one, one ends in 6 and the other 7, hope they come out as nice as yours..

160B · 12-10-2014, 06:53 PM

Here is the Washington 1931 YOM plate I have on my 1931 160B, I have had the plate since 1970, when my wife bought a box of plates at a garage sale for $15 and thought I would be upset because she spent too much!!

As I recall the box had plates from 1928 through the 40s, all matching sets!!!

this plate has been restored and I like it because it has 3 31's on it

Mitch//pa · 12-10-2014, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1930pu

Your plate looks great, Thanks for letting us know who restored it. I have a 1930 coupe and a 1930 rpu, I was able to get 2 1930 Pa. plates with all the numbers the same except the last one, one ends in 6 and the other 7, hope they come out as nice as yours..

this is the 3rd plate Rod did for me.. i am very happy with them all
he also sends pics of it after glass beading
The pic doesn't show it great but it did have a lot of dents issues and pitting

Mitch//pa · 12-10-2014, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 160B

Here is the Washington 1931 YOM plate I have on my 1931 160B, I have had the plate since 1970, when my wife bought a box of plates at a garage sale for $15 and thought I would be upset because she spent too much!!

As I recall the box had plates from 1928 through the 40s, all matching sets!!!

this plate has been restored and I like it because it has 3 31's on it

I like that number combo another great find and your plate looks fantastic
I also like the shape of the three's

TerryH · 12-10-2014, 11:13 PM

I bought a set of restored California plates about 6 years ago, and was very happy with how they turned out. The man I bought them from was in N. California, and guaranteed the numbers being good at the DMV for something like 2 months.

Mitch//pa · 12-11-2014, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryH

I bought a set of restored California plates about 6 years ago, and was very happy with how they turned out. The man I bought them from was in N. California, and guaranteed the numbers being good at the DMV for something like 2 months.

Terry,
thats a nice plate
is your A registered as an antique as i see you have to display registration stickers, so i assume there is a yearly registration fee.
here in PA they are considered permanent requiring no yearly fees, once and done.

Tom Wesenberg · 12-11-2014, 09:40 AM

That's the first time I've seen a plate with the reinforcing rib stamped the opposite direction from the numbers. At first glance it looks like the plate was installed backwards.

Mitch//pa · 12-11-2014, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

That's the first time I've seen a plate with the reinforcing rib stamped the opposite direction from the numbers. At first glance it looks like the plate was installed backwards.

yea Tom i did not notice that very odd, and i wonder what the holes are for on the perimeter

TonyM · 12-11-2014, 10:23 AM

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I noticed a lot of the old plates, including several I own, have very small holes punched in all four corners (in addition to the four oblong holes usually used for mounting). What is the purpose of the small holes? I am guessing that they are also for mounting (?). Are those for mounting too?

jkeesey · 12-11-2014, 10:42 AM

Im guessing the small outer holes are for foreign cars which had their license plate holes farther out. At least some of the oddball cars I have worked on were that way.

Chris Haynes · 12-11-2014, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

yea Tom i did not notice that very odd, and i wonder what the holes are for on the perimeter

My 1930 CA plates don't have those extra holes.

TerryH · 12-12-2014, 01:26 AM

Mitch, to answer your question, no it is not registered as an "antique". I believe if you do, there are restrictions on how much you can drive or use your car.......seems like I remember hearing that years ago. It is registered normally, but with YOM plates.

Charlville · 12-12-2014, 03:05 AM

All all a bit different here in the UK, when I imported my Sport Coupe I had a few options, buy a number from the marketplace, buy a number from the Driver and Vehicle Licencing Agency, (DVLA), Most of our numbers are transferable so as you can imagine the right combinations of numbers and letters go for a very high price. I decided to take a flyer on a YOM plate that would be issued FOC by the DVLA. I ended up with BF6922 which was part of a batch I believe was originally issued in 1929 for Staffordshire, as our plates are/were regional. I live in Berkshire but I think it's a pretty cool number

Sixseven · 12-12-2014, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Vermin has beautifully restored '29 California plates, Black, with Yellow letters, 14" long & with square corners. Cost me 2 arms & a leg, to purchase 3 plain chrome frames for them!!!
Often wondered, if I ran current plates on a Model A & painted them Black/Yellow, would JOHN LAW notice??????
Bill W.

Want one custom made? You pick the state, the year and the number:

http://www.licenseplates.tv/index.ph...que_collectors

JOHN LAW might not notice, but wouldn't care if the plate was used in an off road show setting.

Chris Haynes · 12-12-2014, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryH

Mitch, to answer your question, no it is not registered as an "antique". I believe if you do, there are restrictions on how much you can drive or use your car.......seems like I remember hearing that years ago. It is registered normally, but with YOM plates.

CA has Historical Vehicle Plates. More expensive than YOM.

mhsprecher · 12-13-2014, 05:50 AM

I bought some YOM plates for my roadster. I never thought to check to see if the number had been reregistered. Darryl has them to restore them. I may never get them back, so it may not matter. ;-)

Mitch//pa · 12-13-2014, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhsprecher

I bought some YOM plates for my roadster. I never thought to check to see if the number had been reregistered. Darryl has them to restore them. I may never get them back, so it may not matter. ;-)

who is Darryl

BILL WILLIAMSON · 12-13-2014, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

who is Darryl

He's the youngest of the 3 Darryl Brothers from the Bob Newhart Show!!!
Bill W.

Tom Cavallaro · 12-13-2014, 02:19 PM

I have a perfect set of two NJ 1934 green with white letters/numbers, looking to trade for a perfect set of 1930 NJ grey with white letters/numbers. if anyone is interested send me a message. Thanks
Tom

CarlG · 12-13-2014, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

... Cost me 2 arms & a leg, to purchase 3 plain chrome frames for them!!!...

Bill, Where did you get your frame? I've been looking for one for my '31 Texas plates.

Mitch//pa · 12-13-2014, 04:53 PM

Since we never got a definitive answer on the reason some tags have little holes in them i asked Rod at tagdr.com so here is what he said::::

"Lots of others states had those same holes.
They were used to set the plate on little pegs when the plate was struck with the serial number. Basically to keep it in place on the table when striking".

BILL WILLIAMSON · 12-13-2014, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlG

Bill, Where did you get your frame? I've been looking for one for my '31 Texas plates.

Sacramento Vintage Ford---They're 14" long, with square corners. Some 14" plates had rounded corners. 1934 Ca plates had rounded corners.
Bill W.

mhsprecher · 12-14-2014, 08:26 AM

Here is Darryl's web site: http://www.darrylsplates.com/ He came highly recommended by a guy in my club chapter.

His work is very good, but I have seen complaints about the time he takes. He has had mine about 6 months. He asked for payment in October.

Mitch//pa · 12-14-2014, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhsprecher

Here is Darryl's web site: http://www.darrylsplates.com/ He came highly recommended by a guy in my club chapter.

His work is very good, but I have seen complaints about the time he takes. He has had mine about 6 months. He asked for payment in October.

i did a search and found lots of issues with his turnaround time.. no matter how good the work is what good is it if it takes years to get done. thats one guy to stay away from.. i like things handled in a reasonable amount of time unless notified in advance about it. to pay for it in full is nuts, Rod at tag dr didnt request payment till it was ready for shipment back..as mentioned this is my third go around and each time has been pleasant and quick. when i find a good guy on a service i will stick with him and tell others. thats the best form of advertisement.

denis4x4 · 12-14-2014, 10:55 AM

There is an alternative to YOM plates is some states. I have a pair of 1927 Colorado plates that were painted to match the car. Since it was registered in 1999 with a bonded title, I'm unable to get YOM plates. However, I was able to get personalized plates matching the '27 numbers. Never any issues with the law. The '29 plates are un-restored originals and designated as truck plates.

mshmodela · 12-14-2014, 11:04 AM

Mitch,

Wow great plate for you... amazing work by the Dr.

mhsprecher · 12-14-2014, 06:13 PM

Mitch,

In hindsight, I wish I had had the foresight. I went off of the recommendation of a respected member of our local club without checking on FB. Not much I can do now. When they called and wanted my cc number, I assumed that the plates would be shipped soon. When they didn't show up, I called. It was then that I read some comments on line. Caveat emptor!

bikejunk · 12-14-2014, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

Since we never got a definitive answer on the reason some tags have little holes in them i asked Rod at tagdr.com so here is what he said::::

"Lots of others states had those same holes.
They were used to set the plate on little pegs when the plate was struck with the serial number. Basically to keep it in place on the table when striking".

that is the same reason for that notch in US army dogtags it hold it in the embossing machine.

Chris Haynes · 12-14-2014, 06:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bikejunk

that is the same reason for that notch in US army dogtags it hold it in the embossing machine.

The notch in dog tags is so the tag can be jammed inbetween the teeth of a body.

12-10-2014, 07:58 AM	#1
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	YOM plate what do you guys think of this plate...

12-10-2014, 08:19 AM	#2
raprice22 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 80	Re: YOM plate It looks to be in remarkable condition. I don't know what the regulations are in Pennsylvania, but you should check to see if you can repaint the numbers/letters. Some states say that you cannot alter or restore a license plate. With your DMV permission, you could just install the plate on your '30 Model A. Rog

12-10-2014, 08:20 AM	#3
Vin-tin Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Eastern Pa. Posts: 543	Re: YOM plate I like it Mitch. It's kind of a unique letter and number combo. Restore the paint and your good to go. I recently talked to a notary about the old purple plates they no longer make and the YOM plates. She said if an old plate number had not been registered for a few years, PENNDOT can re-issue that number on a new plate. If that happens, it kills the old plate. I like the purple plates and wish they would bring them back. __________________ 1929 Coupe 1930 Coupe 1935 Ford 5 window coupe

12-10-2014, 11:06 AM	#4
62pan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Middletown Pa Posts: 391	Re: YOM plate Looking at Pa's website that plate is okay to use registration wise, not sure about the paint condition though.

12-10-2014, 11:08 AM	#5
jkeesey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Glenmoore Pa Posts: 1,644	Re: YOM plate I was told the plates must be in restored original condition. So perfect. I have a matched front and rear pair for my Model A but the number was reused so they are useless.

12-10-2014, 11:20 AM	#6
Cape Codder Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,262	Re: YOM plate Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I think it is pretty neat and you should give it to me 'cause I live in MA and how neat would that be? LOL Good luck with working it thru the PA DMV!!

12-10-2014, 11:21 AM	#7
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: YOM plate here in PA we can restore our plates for use or they must be legible for unrestored... i thought this plate was cool not only because of the 123 but the MA which can stand for Model A or Mitch's Auto the numbers were clear to use in the data base so i went for it and then sent it to tagdr.com for restoration... i think it's a good fit for Lucy

12-10-2014, 11:42 AM	#8
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,849	Re: YOM plate So you need just one plate in PA.? In California you need 2 plates. That make it more difficult to get YOM plates.

12-10-2014, 12:09 PM	#11
Boston Bruce Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Maine and SC Posts: 205	Re: YOM plate Not a bad number Mitch. Nice painting job by the Dr. 1930_plate.jpg

12-10-2014, 12:36 PM	#12
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: YOM plate Thats a beauty ! He does nice work.

12-10-2014, 05:47 PM	#16
62pan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Middletown Pa Posts: 391	Re: YOM plate Pa alternated colors blue and yellow each year starting in 1923 with 23 being blue with yellow numbers.

12-10-2014, 06:48 PM	#18
1930pu Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Kingston, Pa. Posts: 151	Re: YOM plate Your plate looks great, Thanks for letting us know who restored it. I have a 1930 coupe and a 1930 rpu, I was able to get 2 1930 Pa. plates with all the numbers the same except the last one, one ends in 6 and the other 7, hope they come out as nice as yours..

12-10-2014, 06:53 PM	#19
160B Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Port Orchard, WA Posts: 1,498	Re: YOM plate Here is the Washington 1931 YOM plate I have on my 1931 160B, I have had the plate since 1970, when my wife bought a box of plates at a garage sale for $15 and thought I would be upset because she spent too much!! As I recall the box had plates from 1928 through the 40s, all matching sets!!! this plate has been restored and I like it because it has 3 31's on it __________________ 1931 160B & 1931 68B If you don't have time to do it right the 1st time, how do you have time to do it the 2nd time?

12-10-2014, 11:13 PM	#22
TerryH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fountain Valley, Calif. Posts: 937	Re: YOM plate I bought a set of restored California plates about 6 years ago, and was very happy with how they turned out. The man I bought them from was in N. California, and guaranteed the numbers being good at the DMV for something like 2 months.

12-11-2014, 09:40 AM	#24
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: YOM plate That's the first time I've seen a plate with the reinforcing rib stamped the opposite direction from the numbers. At first glance it looks like the plate was installed backwards.

12-11-2014, 10:23 AM	#26
TonyM Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: West Hammond, Illinois Posts: 2,793	Re: YOM plate Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I noticed a lot of the old plates, including several I own, have very small holes punched in all four corners (in addition to the four oblong holes usually used for mounting). What is the purpose of the small holes? I am guessing that they are also for mounting (?). Are those for mounting too?

12-11-2014, 10:42 AM	#27
jkeesey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Glenmoore Pa Posts: 1,644	Re: YOM plate Im guessing the small outer holes are for foreign cars which had their license plate holes farther out. At least some of the oddball cars I have worked on were that way.

12-12-2014, 01:26 AM	#29
TerryH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fountain Valley, Calif. Posts: 937	Re: YOM plate Mitch, to answer your question, no it is not registered as an "antique". I believe if you do, there are restrictions on how much you can drive or use your car.......seems like I remember hearing that years ago. It is registered normally, but with YOM plates.

12-12-2014, 03:05 AM	#30
Charlville Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: West Berkshire, United Kingdom Posts: 368	Re: YOM plate All all a bit different here in the UK, when I imported my Sport Coupe I had a few options, buy a number from the marketplace, buy a number from the Driver and Vehicle Licencing Agency, (DVLA), Most of our numbers are transferable so as you can imagine the right combinations of numbers and letters go for a very high price. I decided to take a flyer on a YOM plate that would be issued FOC by the DVLA. I ended up with BF6922 which was part of a batch I believe was originally issued in 1929 for Staffordshire, as our plates are/were regional. I live in Berkshire but I think it's a pretty cool number __________________ Kevin Flood West Berkshire UK Member MAFCGB, VHRA, SAH, Brooklands Trust Sporadic progress on My 1929 Sport Coupe can be found here along with my blog http://automotiveamerican.com/

12-13-2014, 05:50 AM	#33
mhsprecher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Takoma Park, MD Posts: 2,817	Re: YOM plate I bought some YOM plates for my roadster. I never thought to check to see if the number had been reregistered. Darryl has them to restore them. I may never get them back, so it may not matter. ;-)

12-13-2014, 02:19 PM	#36
Tom Cavallaro Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Barrington, NJ Posts: 280	Re: YOM plate I have a perfect set of two NJ 1934 green with white letters/numbers, looking to trade for a perfect set of 1930 NJ grey with white letters/numbers. if anyone is interested send me a message. Thanks Tom __________________ I work very hard to avoid all and any mistakes. I thought I made a mistake once, but I was wrong.

12-13-2014, 04:53 PM	#38
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: YOM plate Since we never got a definitive answer on the reason some tags have little holes in them i asked Rod at tagdr.com so here is what he said:::: "Lots of others states had those same holes. They were used to set the plate on little pegs when the plate was struck with the serial number. Basically to keep it in place on the table when striking".

12-14-2014, 08:26 AM	#40
mhsprecher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Takoma Park, MD Posts: 2,817	Re: YOM plate Here is Darryl's web site: http://www.darrylsplates.com/ He came highly recommended by a guy in my club chapter. His work is very good, but I have seen complaints about the time he takes. He has had mine about 6 months. He asked for payment in October.

12-14-2014, 11:04 AM	#43
mshmodela Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,763	Re: YOM plate Mitch, Wow great plate for you... amazing work by the Dr. __________________ -Mike Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A. Cleveland, Ohio

12-14-2014, 06:13 PM	#44
mhsprecher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Takoma Park, MD Posts: 2,817	Re: YOM plate Mitch, In hindsight, I wish I had had the foresight. I went off of the recommendation of a respected member of our local club without checking on FB. Not much I can do now. When they called and wanted my cc number, I assumed that the plates would be shipped soon. When they didn't show up, I called. It was then that I read some comments on line. Caveat emptor!