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02-05-2017, 05:41 PM | #1 |
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Should I be concerned using a two-post lift on a Model A
Recently I had a gentleman PM me here on fordbarn forum with a concerning question asking if it was safe to lift my 31 Model A Truck using a two-post lift.
I for one never gave it any thought when lifting my truck I never realized there was possibly an issue lifting the truck with a two-post lift. Does anyone in the FordBarn Forum know of any issues. I would definitely like to know obviously I don't want any problems i.e. frame splitting at the cowl with front end separating falling forward.. Any and all advice or experience would be greatly appreciated. Thanks |
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Re: Should I be concerned using a two-post lift on a Model A
Well if your lifting up a rotted out frame any car can split, even a modern.. if done properly its perfectly safe. I spread the front arms out to the rear motor mount area and the rear arms to where the muffler clamp bolts to the frame. This gives you a nice stabil spread
These are 1 ft adapters under adjustable feet Last edited by Mitch//pa; 02-05-2017 at 05:57 PM. |
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02-05-2017, 05:56 PM | #3 |
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Re: Should I be concerned using a two-post lift on a Model A
Well that's what I thought also but being new to the model a world I wasn't positively sure after that question was posed to me.
I definitely took my time and lined everything up properly to be safe anyway. This truck being a Georgia truck has very little rust if any anywhere never any patches in the body or bed, frame looks great but I was concerned |
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Re: Should I be concerned using a two-post lift on a Model A
Nice pic from Down Under
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Re: Should I be concerned using a two-post lift on a Model A
It does take me a good 15-20 minutes to set it the way i want. Depending on the job being performed sometimes i use the 4 post
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Mitch, did you make those extensions?
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The adapters came with the challenger CL lifts. Four-- 6 inch and two 1 ft'ers per lift The six inchers can be stacked to 1ft |
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Re: Should I be concerned using a two-post lift on a Model A
It will be fine, have been lifting my A,s with a 2 post for 17 years. works great I do like Mitch.
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Re: Should I be concerned using a two-post lift on a Model A
Thanks for the advice my lift also came with extender lifts . I didn't have to make up anything special it also took me closer to a half an hour to get it figured out but lifted very level
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Re: Should I be concerned using a two-post lift on a Model A
Many years ago, the Toyota dealership in Walkerton Ont had the owners model A fall off the inground hoist. It had just been restored. The guys in the back shop were scared crapless to let him know what happened. When Harold came out to the shop to see his car laying on it's side, he asked if anyone got hurt?. Finding out that there were no injuries, he said clean it up, and returned to his office. He recanted this story to me on numerous occasions. He was most concerned that no one got hurt. There was no sense in getting upset. The damage was done. He passed away Sept. 11 2004. And is missed still by my family. Jeff
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He had the proper AGREED value...its worth more dead than alive...
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I have a 2 post Atlas and it works fine.
Same positioning as Mitch and I use an extra 1 - 1/2 inch extender in the rear to level out the car because the rear of the frame goes up near the shocks. With the car up and a level on the running board it is perfectly straight. A little tricky and timing consuming to get all 4 aligned so that they don't bother the brake arms. I have splash pans so the front arms can not go as forward as I would like. But, it beat a creeper. |
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Re: Should I be concerned using a two-post lift on a Model A
My lift is also a Atlas 2 post lift I feel it works great but only was concerned when another gentleman stated it was not safe.
I took all precautions and used supports under the car for the first couple of days just to be sure I've had no issue |
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Re: Should I be concerned using a two-post lift on a Model A
The last place I worked had a very unsafe 2 post lift for me to work under. The concrete was thin and weak, so the lift couldn't properly be anchored. I could grab the front bumper of a car on the hoist and push up and down and watch the base of the lift move on the weak concrete. If the car would have been off center by a foot or more, I wouldn't doubt that the lift and car both would have fallen over. I was glad to get out of there.
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When you talked about 2 post lifts I thought you were referring to the old post lifts that were underground. One for the front and one for the rear. Not the new above ground lifts.
Paul in CT I go back a long time. |
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Re: Should I be concerned using a two-post lift on a Model A
[QUOTE=1931 flamingo;1426630]When you talked about 2 post lifts I thought you were referring to the old post lifts that were underground. One for the front and one for the rear. Not the new above ground lifts.
Paul in CT I go back a long time.[/QUOTE Those would work good on an A, as the brake rods wont apply the brakes, and much easier to do adjustments... |
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02-09-2017, 12:16 AM | #21 |
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Great to hear all the good info
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I have a Challenger 7000 pound two post lift.I have 10 inch standoffs I made to reach up to clear the running boards.I put the front posts right at the side motor mounts,and the rear stands under the frame right where the rear radius rods cross,just ahead of them.That way I can pull the rear end with the car on the lift.I worked in a station while in high school that had a Weaver 2 post in ground lift.I went in early one morning to find a 64 Plymouth with the tail in the air and gas all over the floor.It had blown a valve during the night and the rear post with the axle fork had raised up to full heighth.It poked right through the gas tank and into the trunk.I ran out and pulled the meter,I was afraid the furnace was going to kick on while I was still inside.
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As Tom mentioned, as long as you have the required concrete thickness, and in my case the Atlas 9KOH required 4". If you have the concrete thickness, you should be OK. Last week I had my daughters Chevy Suburban on the 9,000 lb lift and it was fine. Now, I know the Atlas 9KOH at $1,595 is at the low end of what some 2 posts cost. I have seen other brands that certainty look like they have more metal and look stronger, but the Atlas works. Last edited by old31; 02-09-2017 at 11:59 AM. |
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The complaint was "stress on the frame" at the Cowl/hood area. He had heard the Car would split and separate at the hood/cowl area falling forward from the body & frame. Engine,hood,radiator,front frame section, etc. I guess due to weakness of frame splitting due to rot. I also think as several others have mentioned, maybe his car frame was compromised by rot and that's where the problem was. Or just concern after hearing other horror stories. So far I've had no issues my concrete is only 2 years old & Atlas lift being only 6 months old Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk |
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Re: Should I be concerned using a two-post lift on a Model A
I have the poor mans lift. A hole in the ground commonly called a pit.
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Hopefully it was built downwind.
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