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Old 12-15-2023, 08:43 AM   #1
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The 1935 Ford question of the day is........The instruction decal for the air breather. I have been really reading Francis & DeAngelis book the last few days and really studying pictures as well as details in print and I noticed the attached photo of a 1935 factory photo of a chassis and noticed the air breather maintainance decal facing the "Right" side of the car. ALL 35's I have seen and two photos I have a very high point restoration 35's all have the decal facing the left side of the motor.


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IS it supposed to face to the right side of the motor? The left side of the motor?? OR Where there two, one each side???
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Old 12-15-2023, 08:56 AM   #2
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Left side to serve as a reminder about oil changes and cleaning the air cleaner element each time the oil level is checked.
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Left side to serve as a reminder about oil changes and cleaning the air cleaner element each time the oil level is checked.
Thank you David, makes perfect sense.
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Why is is shown on the right side in the restoration manual then?
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Old 12-15-2023, 10:18 AM   #5
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Why is is shown on the right side in the restoration manual then?
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It's NOT a "restoration" manual but in the "The Early Ford V8" as Henry Built It by Ed Francis and George De Angelis. The short answer IS remember these are assembled by humans and at several locations......Was every rule followed to the "T"??? Most likely not in this case. David's extensive knowledge and intellect most assured will expand on this!!
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In the 35-36 Ford Book, on p105, it says "A decal was located on the right (passenger)
side of the air filter..." terry
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In the 35-36 Ford Book, on p105, it says "A decal was located on the right (passenger)
side of the air filter..." terry
Interesting, I am at work and not by my restoration book. I just saw the photo of the chassis this morning while looking at the Francis/DeAngelis book and had a scanner so hence my post and question since I am assembling and detailing a engine for a 35 now. Your response now deepens the question of the original post.
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The 1935 Ford question of the day is........The instruction decal for the air breather. I have been really reading Francis & DeAngelis book the last few days and really studying pictures as well as details in print and I noticed the attached photo of a 1935 factory photo of a chassis and noticed the air breather maintainance decal facing the "Right" side of the car. ALL 35's I have seen and two photos I have a very high point restoration 35's all have the decal facing the left side of the motor.


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IS it supposed to face to the right side of the motor? The left side of the motor?? OR Where there two, one each side???


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Old 12-15-2023, 12:26 PM   #9
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If the Club's '35-'36 book indicates that it was on the right side, then we need the author's basis for the change from the prior three model year's practice of it being on the same side as the dipstick. What say you, Don?
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Old 12-15-2023, 01:28 PM   #10
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I rather doubt they would place a sticker on each side. Makes perfect
sense they would place it on the dip stick side. Rarely do you open the
other hood side. You would think quality control would have caught that.
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Old 12-15-2023, 02:20 PM   #11
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Maybe it's placed on the left side for those countries that drive on the wrong side of the road. terry
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Old 12-15-2023, 05:22 PM   #12
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Terry, the 35-36 Book page 105 does say that the decal for the air cleaner is on the right side, but " when it was orientated with the "FRONT" embossing facing the front, and the vent holes facing the firewall"

It looks like the second photo has the air cleaner installed with the vents facing the driver side. First photo cannot determine the orientation.
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Old 12-15-2023, 05:57 PM   #13
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Actually the two photos are of different air cleaner types. The Ford archives chassis photo shows the standard dry air cleaner whereas in the second photo that's an accessory oil bath air cleaner.
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With respect: I do not believe that you can assume anything. If you have good documentation it is proven. Would the car be Dearborn judged by assumptions?
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Old 12-15-2023, 08:26 PM   #15
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Gary, you are right. The 2nd pic shows the dry type air filter. But the filter, itself, hasn't been put on right. When the word "front" is placed facing the front, then you wouldn't see that many vent holes. They would be facing more towads the firewall.
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Old 12-15-2023, 11:59 PM   #16
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With due respect to all the contributors, the statement on page 105 of The 1935-36 Ford Book is correct. The decal location was shown in Ford Owners Manuals and Service Buls asw well as unrestored original air cleaners.
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Old 12-16-2023, 12:08 AM   #17
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Two more
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With due respect to all the contributors, the statement on page 105 of The 1935-36 Ford Book is correct. The decal location was shown in Ford Owners Manuals and Service Buls asw well as unrestored original air cleaners.




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Old 12-16-2023, 02:55 AM   #19
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Here's another picture similar to Don's above. Decal says manufactured in the USA by the Burgess Battery company oddly enough. Wonder if the decal would have been applied by Burgess at the time the Air Cleaner was manufactured or later by Ford (?).

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Old 12-16-2023, 09:16 AM   #20
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Attached is the Ford Engineering drawing for the air cleaner (Part No. 40-9600-B). It shows the location of the decal on the right (passenger) side.
I included 1935-36 air cleaner information on page 117 of my book based on Don's research, the attached drawing and period Ford sales and instruction book illustrations.
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