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tubman · 11-11-2016, 07:39 PM

I'd like to add an Air/Fuel meter to my engine test stand While I realize that this setup would not be as good as having it in the actual vehicle, I believe it would be valuable in establishing baseline values and troubleshooting initial setup problems. I have searched the Internet, and have found a few prospects. The trouble I am having is that almost all that I have seen are offered by a company called "Innovative Motorsports". When you check their reviews on places like Amazon, they come off looking very bad. I know for every product there will always be a small minority that just can't be satisfied, but this negativity is beyond that. Does anyone have any suggestions on other sources or a good reason to disregard these negative opinions? Just for information, it looks like a sensor/gauge combination for something like this retails for about $160; I think that would be a worthwhile update to my system.

41LjH · 11-11-2016, 07:52 PM

I have this on my 41, no problems.

JWL · 11-12-2016, 07:16 AM

I agree Innovate has a high failure rate. Try Autometer, AEM, NGK, Quick Fuel, and others.

Ol' Ron · 11-12-2016, 09:28 AM

I had an inexpensive on back in the 90's that had a searies of colored leds for output. It cost only 40 bucks and was quite accurate. Requires a junk yard O2 sensor. can't think of the name right now. Old age I guess.

tubman · 11-12-2016, 11:27 AM

Ol' Ron : If this ever comes back to you, let me know. It's the way I would prefer to go.

Tony, NY · 11-12-2016, 11:29 AM

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Ross F-1 · 11-12-2016, 11:37 AM

I can't imagine how a production O2 sensor from an EFI car would do you any good. They are very different from a wideband as used on AFM systems, more like a switch than a linear output.

No problems with my Innovate, two years old.

scicala · 11-12-2016, 11:49 AM

Tubman,

Unless you're test stand includes a dynamometer or some type of engine braking, the A/F meter won't be good for much other than adjusting idle mixture and maybe idle progression with no load.

Sal

tubman · 11-12-2016, 12:29 PM

Sal,

Sounds like a good place to start to me. I'd be happy with that for $160.

Ross,

Point well taken. After thinking about it, it seems to be a pretty silly way to save $100.

Tony,

That seems to be a little more expensive that what I've been looking at, plus I'd rather have a gauge. Thanks for the link, though.

Tubman

11-11-2016, 07:39 PM	#1
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,321	Source for a generic A/F setup I'd like to add an Air/Fuel meter to my engine test stand While I realize that this setup would not be as good as having it in the actual vehicle, I believe it would be valuable in establishing baseline values and troubleshooting initial setup problems. I have searched the Internet, and have found a few prospects. The trouble I am having is that almost all that I have seen are offered by a company called "Innovative Motorsports". When you check their reviews on places like Amazon, they come off looking very bad. I know for every product there will always be a small minority that just can't be satisfied, but this negativity is beyond that. Does anyone have any suggestions on other sources or a good reason to disregard these negative opinions? Just for information, it looks like a sensor/gauge combination for something like this retails for about $160; I think that would be a worthwhile update to my system. Last edited by tubman; 11-12-2016 at 07:59 AM.

11-12-2016, 07:16 AM	#3
JWL Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fitzgerald, Georgia Posts: 2,204	Re: Source for a generic A/F setup I agree Innovate has a high failure rate. Try Autometer, AEM, NGK, Quick Fuel, and others.

11-12-2016, 09:28 AM	#4
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,862	Re: Source for a generic A/F setup I had an inexpensive on back in the 90's that had a searies of colored leds for output. It cost only 40 bucks and was quite accurate. Requires a junk yard O2 sensor. can't think of the name right now. Old age I guess.

11-12-2016, 11:27 AM	#5
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,321	Re: Source for a generic A/F setup Ol' Ron : If this ever comes back to you, let me know. It's the way I would prefer to go.

11-12-2016, 11:29 AM	#6
Tony, NY Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Capital of Corruption , NY Posts: 811	Re: Source for a generic A/F setup Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) https://www.summitracing.com/parts/edl-6593

11-12-2016, 11:49 AM	#8
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,706	Re: Source for a generic A/F setup Tubman, Unless you're test stand includes a dynamometer or some type of engine braking, the A/F meter won't be good for much other than adjusting idle mixture and maybe idle progression with no load. Sal

11-12-2016, 12:29 PM	#9
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,321	Re: Source for a generic A/F setup Sal, Sounds like a good place to start to me. I'd be happy with that for $160. Ross, Point well taken. After thinking about it, it seems to be a pretty silly way to save $100. Tony, That seems to be a little more expensive that what I've been looking at, plus I'd rather have a gauge. Thanks for the link, though. Tubman