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Old 02-28-2024, 07:00 PM   #21
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Old 02-28-2024, 08:47 PM   #22
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For those who don't know, the Ford Model Y was made from 1932 to 37 in England. It is something like a 3/4 scale American '34 and it has a scaled down 4 banger. It is an Early Ford, but it does not fit into any of the 4 Fordbarn Forums, so nobody ever talks about them on Fordbarn. That is why we need the 5th forum, Non US Ford based Flathead Era
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For those who don't know, the Ford Model Y was made from 1932 to 37 in England. It is something like a 3/4 scale American '34 and it has a scaled down 4 banger. It is an Early Ford, but it does not fit into any of the 4 Fordbarn Forums, so nobody ever talks about them on Fordbarn. That is why we need the 5th forum, Non US Ford based Flathead Era
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Old 02-29-2024, 04:22 AM   #24
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I have a 36 “Y” model. There is a great book about them. The 33 US ford was styled after the Y model once Edsel seen the Y in Europe.
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Old 02-29-2024, 10:25 AM   #25
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Well, I guess I'm in the right place, with the perfect crossover.
Here's my 1948 Prefect, currently being retrofitted with a V8 60.
I also own a completely stock 1952 Popular.
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Old 02-29-2024, 10:53 AM   #26
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Since there is such an interest, adding a new Ford flathead category is a good idea.
After all, Henry Ford was "world wide".
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Old 02-29-2024, 12:28 PM   #27
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Well, I guess I'm in the right place, with the perfect crossover.
Here's my 1948 Prefect, currently being retrofitted with a V8 60.
I also own a completely stock 1952 Popular.
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Old 03-01-2024, 12:50 AM   #28
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Ford of England made what have become known as the Small Sidevalve Fords from 1932 to 1962. They all had some version of a scaled down Model B engine. Yes, if you were not aware, the last car pictured has a little flathead 4 banger and was made until 1962! But none are suitable for Fordbarn in its present format!
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Ford of England made what have become known as the Small Sidevalve Fords from 1932 to 1962. They all had some version of a scaled down Model B engine. Yes, if you were not aware, the last car pictured has a little flathead 4 banger and was made until 1962! But none are suitable for Fordbarn in its present format!


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Ford of Germany

The German Ford Cologne factory opened in 1931 and by 1933 was making Fords which do not fit into todays Fordbarn forums.
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The Ford Koln was a version of the English Model Y with the small English engine. Later came the Eifel and the Taunus.
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The first Taunus looked like a little Lincoln Zephyr and had the small English engine. The Taunus had various updates and used the small English 4 banger until about 1962.
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Germany made its own V8s. These do fit into the Fordbarn Early V8 Forum, but when they are talked about, they are considered to be unusual and oddball. They would be right at home in the new forum.

Germany kept on making their own version of the BB truck after 1932.
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These do not fit into the Fordbarn forums. The BB engine was redesigned in Germany as the G28T and used in trucks until the 1950s.
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Some of these trucks have been preserved, but they do not fit into the Fordbarn categories and nobody talks about them on Fordbarn.

Ford of Germany has its own fascinating Flathead era history which is largely out of the range of the present Fordbarn forums. We really do need the new forum, Non US Ford Based Flathead Era
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Old 03-04-2024, 01:33 AM   #32
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Vintage, Congratulations, you now have 10 posts in less than a month, and have made your point numerous times about the need for a new forum, but we have not the foggiest idea where you are or what to call you other than Vintage... It would be nice if you could take the time to introduce yourself as most all here have done, and just go right on happily posting pictures and facts known to you about those non-American Fords. I'm fairly certain that your message hasn't gone unnoticed. More photos and videos? This forum can handle all the non conforming stuff you can dig up!
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Old 03-04-2024, 02:03 AM   #33
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I believe the idea has merit and support it with one caveat... change the “US” to NA (North American). There are a few idiosyncratic characteristics on our Canadian built Fords so they are not 100% US copies but close enough.
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Old 03-04-2024, 07:58 AM   #34
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Canada is definitely non US. I think that all the vehicles ever made by Canada fit into the existing Fordbarn Forum titles, so all Canadian built Fords can already be discussed on Fordbarn. The Fords built in England and Germany that are the same as or similar to American Fords fit into the Fordbarn Forum titles and we do not need a new forum for them. It is for the Fords that are so different that they do not fit the existing forum titles that we need the new forum. But Canada is non US and you could talk about Canadian Fords on the new forum.

I can keep going like this for quite some time, which will either intrigue or irritate! It may already be starting to irritate.

So what do you say Ryan?
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Old 03-04-2024, 08:09 AM   #35
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Thanks to this thread I found a set of “Made in Canada” cylinder heads, numbers 40-6049 & 40-6050! Thanks Ford Barn & Ron.
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Old 03-04-2024, 01:59 PM   #36
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anything that helps the old Fords, I'm for. It's a hobby that keeps them alive, I don;t know much about them, except for the French V8. Nice engine.
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Old 03-04-2024, 03:59 PM   #37
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On further reflection, I no longer agree that a new forum is called for By having a separate forum, it's likely that at least some of the current participants won't look at the new forum on a regular basis and therefore the information that it contains won't reach the largest possible audience. The purpose of these forums is not just to share information but to learn and to expose the many unique products of Ford produced outside of the U.S. during the flathead era is and will continue to be a welcome learning experience to many fordbarners.
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Well I still think think Non NA Ford’s would be way more focussed. Being that Ford of Canada was founded in 1904 and the very minimal differences between the Canadian Fords and those across the line I think of these cars as North American and non just US.
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I agree with "DavidG" for the reasons he puts forth.

To be brutally frank, I think that the chance that a major change will be made to this forum is slim to none.
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Fortunateson. Oh yes, I see what you mean now and you are correct. I change the title of the proposed new forum to Non North American Ford Based Flathead era. Thank you for your assistance! To be clear for all global Fordbarners, North America is the continent including USA and Canada.
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