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10-14-2018, 06:06 PM | #1 |
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Tips to select good Model A wheels
I am going to look at a pile of Model A wheels. Besides the overall condition of the metal, the hub, the spokes and the lug nut chamfer what other things can I do to pick good straight wheels. I won't have access to any special equipment to spin the wheels for example. It's a cash and carry deal - no return policy. All help appreciated.
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10-14-2018, 06:18 PM | #2 |
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Re: Tips to select good Model A wheels
Roll slowly on a hard surface like concrete they will wiggle and hop if bent .
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10-14-2018, 08:15 PM | #3 |
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Re: Tips to select good Model A wheels
28/29 beads rotted out or full of rust.
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10-14-2018, 09:53 PM | #4 |
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Re: Tips to select good Model A wheels
If I was in the market for wheels I would make something to spin them. There is a lot of bent wheels out there.
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10-14-2018, 10:38 PM | #5 |
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Re: Tips to select good Model A wheels
Jack up a front wheel, remove it. Mount a prospective wheel. Place gauges to show runout on front of rim and on outside of rim. For gauges all you need are rods mounted in a base so that you can place one rod on the front side of the rim and one on the outer side. The rods ought to meet the wheel at the mid-height of the rim at whatever height you have it above the ground or floor. I have a lead brick that makes a good base but anything heavy will work.
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10-15-2018, 06:09 PM | #6 |
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accurate home-made tool for checking wheel run-out. A Model-A front spindle C-clamped to a metal jack stand. With bearings and a drum properly mounted. Placed the "tool" on a concrete floor and bolted the wheels on using three lug nuts. Very clumsy way of checking a wheel, but tells you what you need to know. Bob-A |
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10-15-2018, 08:14 PM | #8 |
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Re: Tips to select good Model A wheels
I made a tool to check wheels by welding a ford pickup axel to a plate,and adding a pointer to check wobble and runout.
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10-15-2018, 08:49 PM | #9 |
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Re: Tips to select good Model A wheels
A friend taught me to use a wrench and tap on each spoke. They should sound the same. A broken one will sound very different. Definitely roll them on hard surface as post #2 says. Avoid deep pitting as even with powder coating they can't be covered entirely.
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10-15-2018, 08:52 PM | #10 |
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Re: Tips to select good Model A wheels
If you have absolutely no tooling to check them, then lay one on a flat surface, then stack another one on top of it. If it rocks on the one below, then one (or both) of them is warped. Try another one until you get two that do not rock. After that, then roll them on a flat surface and watch for wobble. Of course, having a spindle to rotate them on is best, but at least this method will weed out the worst ones.
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10-15-2018, 08:57 PM | #11 |
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Re: Tips to select good Model A wheels
RE Lee Mitch: Good tip Lee, sounding the spokes not only tells a broken one but also it tells the tension. Helps you to see if a broken one has been welded as the tension will sing a different note, even if you can't see the weld. All should be the same note,people watching you at a swap meet will either think yo are playing a tune or are crazy.
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10-16-2018, 09:22 AM | #12 |
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Re: Tips to select good Model A wheels
Carry a lug nut with you to check the bolt holes. If the nut sticks thru on the back side the hole is washed out or starting to wash out. If the nut sticks thru the wheel won't tighten and then you would need to use the washers that venders sell.
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10-16-2018, 12:57 PM | #13 |
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Re: Tips to select good Model A wheels
If they are 28/29 shake them and also listen to them as you roll them to see if there is a bunch of rust inside the bead.
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10-16-2018, 01:46 PM | #14 |
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It all depends on how much is being charged for the wheels. If reasonably priced and you start doing 21 point inspections on them, you might get thrown out on your rear!
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