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Old 11-03-2019, 08:04 PM   #1
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We all (i'm guessing) know this story fairly well about shelby and the Ford gt40.

I'll probably wait for it to come out on netflix or whatever to pick apart, haha.

Looks like a very fun movie!

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Old 11-04-2019, 01:54 AM   #2
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My wife found out about the release yesterday and showed it to me.

I'm from that area and followed the Cobra and GT40 development.
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I've set in an original GT40, does that count for anything? It was an interesting car to set in.
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Old 11-04-2019, 03:07 PM   #4
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Shelby ,Awesome Guy awesome car the first ones based loosely on the uro Lola ,the first win in 66 driven by three Kiwis Bruce McClaron and Chris Ammon ,Dennis Holms ,American Muscle


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Old 11-04-2019, 05:37 PM   #5
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Carroll was an interesting fellow. He has a leaky heart valve that caused him trouble as a young child but he seemed to grow out of it. During the war, he spent some time here in San Antonio as a flight instructor in the Army Air Force before he was relocated to Colorado so his heart was working OK then. He got into racing some years after the war but he gave it up after his heart started giving him troubles in 1960. A racer that can't race teaches others how to race & develops race cars so that's what he did. He was a Ford man for sure. Ford helped him to develop some neat stuff there in the 60s & early 70s. He went over to Dodge after Iacocca asked him to since the Ford products were done. He helped them with the Viper program and others. He went back with Ford in the mid 2000s and helped develop more Mustang cars and the GT types.

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Old 11-04-2019, 07:28 PM   #6
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The UT video right after that about how Ford fielded the GT-40 & beat Ferrari at Lemans by "The Henry Ford" was all you really need to know about the subject, with interviews with Mose Nowland, Carroll Shelby, Dan Gurney & AJ Foyt.
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Gonna go see the movie in Gettysburg tomorrow eve.
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:30 AM   #8
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I am anxious to see the movie but I hope Matt Damon does a better job of portraying Carroll Shelby than what his interviews suggest.The one I saw the other day he stated he was not a car guy and never heard of Carrol Shelby until the script was read. Being about a foot shorter than Shelby and younger looking than Carroll was in the sixties Damon said he pulled it off because Shelby was not known very well.I was a teenager at the time and I damned well knew what he looked like.
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We are going to be tough critics. I did hear a positive review on the radio, but not by a car guy. Probably worth going to see regardless. A great story of larger than life characters: Enzo, Henry II, Carroll Shelby, etc.
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Shelby ,Awesome Guy awesome car the first ones based loosely on the uro Lola ,the first win in 66 driven by three Kiwis Bruce McClaron and Chris Ammon ,Dennis Holms ,American Muscle


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_GT40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXuqMt5aDes




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Chris Ammon was a good friend of my fathers -in fact Dad Introduced him to Sir Jack Brabham when Chris was up and coming . Dad and Chris used to race his Maserati 250F round the paddocks at Bulls 20 mins from were I live . Dad could have brought it for 50 pounds -unfortunately he didn't !

Shelby also prepared the Ford engines that ran in the Sunbeam Tigers at Le Mans They didn't last and the rumour at the time was that as they were competing with the GT40 they were " under prepared " - but who knows

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Seems like young actors today leave a lot to be desired.
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Saw it this evening and it was worth the time and money spent. As a spectator Ford Division employee at the time (the racing program was a Ford Division responsibility), I noted a number of errors of history, particularly with regard to Ford personnel, and breadcrumb items like the impossibility of seeing the Willow Run plant from WHQ, but it was well edited and the casting seemed excellent (except for the Ford personnel, most of whom I knew, including Mr. Ford).
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Shelby used to come to our Club Christmas parties with his wife Cleo....
Matt Damon seems a strange selection for CS, I'm going to venture.
I'll check the movie out tonight.
Wonder what his crew thinks about the movie. I know a few of those guys,
most notably in the production side of the house, including the person who drove the transporter used to deliver the Mustangs to the dealership.
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I've set in an original GT40, does that count for anything? It was an interesting car to set in.
It counts as one more post to add to your total !!
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:45 AM   #15
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It counts as one more post to add to your total !!

Funny you should mention that. Does ANYONE have more posts here on the 'Barn than JSeery's 13,105? He makes the rest of us look like "beginners". DD
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Funny you should mention that. Does ANYONE have more posts here on the 'Barn than JSeery's 13,105? He makes the rest of us look like "beginners". DD
Not to derail the thread but...
I was going to mention this at -11K-12K-13K... but it kept getting past me....a lot of accurate, courteous info from this man.... Thank you sir!!.....Mark
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I was going to mention this at -11K-12K-13K... but it kept getting past me....a lot of accurate, courteous info from this man.... Thank you sir!!.....Mark

No doubt, J knows some stuff! And he surely doesn't mind sharing it with the folks, either. DD
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Old 11-15-2019, 01:08 PM   #18
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It's interesting that the HAMB makes number of post a lot less obvious! Reduces the distraction.
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It's interesting that the HAMB makes number of post a lot less obvious! Reduces the distraction.

They made several things less obvious with the big changes some time back. That's why I pouted, and took my football and went home. DD
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They could take the numbers off and it wouldn't bother me at all. I don't see it making any difference. When I have some time to waist, this is as good a place as any.

My wife is going to make me see it with her this weekend but she really didn't have to twist my arm much on this one.
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