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09-12-2015, 06:22 PM | #1 |
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creating patina
I have a 1928 roadster body that needs a little welding. How go I weld in the patches and keep the patina of the car?
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09-12-2015, 06:30 PM | #2 |
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Re: creating patina
Patina is a time consuming task.
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09-12-2015, 06:41 PM | #3 |
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Re: creating patina
Check the archives at HAMB. There is a lot of bad mouthing of it but I remember some useful information showing up. I need to do some fender work that needs to be painted "patina" to match the rest of the car.
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09-12-2015, 07:36 PM | #4 |
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Re: creating patina
Show some pictures if you will. Anything is possible, limited to paint skill and metal ability. And the level of what needs to be feathered in...
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09-12-2015, 07:47 PM | #5 |
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Re: creating patina
Match the colors of the car in exterior latex paint and use a natural sponge to apply. I use this method once on my 31 AA flat bead. It worked great.
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09-12-2015, 11:29 PM | #6 |
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09-13-2015, 07:08 AM | #7 |
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Re: creating patina
I will take some pictures today. I will match the paint with exterior latex and give it a try. If I remember correctly there is more rust than paint.
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09-13-2015, 07:36 AM | #8 |
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Re: creating patina
Weld in the panels, smooth them out and wash them with vinegar and leave it outside for a few weeks then maybe some Rustoleum rusty metal primer to cover the patches.
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09-13-2015, 07:38 AM | #9 |
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after fixing everything up drive it through a muddy field
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09-13-2015, 08:21 AM | #10 |
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Re: creating patina
walts 72 plus 264.jpg
walts 72 plus 267.jpg walts 72 plus 268.jpg walts 72 plus 269.jpg walts 72 plus 271.jpg walts 72 plus 274.jpgHere is what I'm starting to build. Im not sure there is any patina but I also don't want another shiny car.
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09-13-2015, 10:58 AM | #11 |
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Paint patina I can't help you with. Rust now that I think I can help you with if you are patient and stick with it.
On my 29 AA I found a left rear replacement fender that was new old stock. Looked like a brand new fender when I stripped the paint off of it. It took me dang near a year to get it to rust up to match the rest of my truck. To date not one person has yet to notice that the fender was not on the truck for the past 85 years. On your new welds you will need to give them a bit of texture after you grind / sand them smooth. Try using a sharpened metal punch and hammer to gently put some dimples and pits in. Be creative, maybe some really course sand paper laid on face down on top of the weld and then stuck with a hammer. You get the idea. Once you get a little bit of texture on the metal it will help the rust take hold. On my fender I started off with the large course granulated Kosher salt. I got the metal wet and then sprinkled the salt on letting it stick. The idea wasn't to totally cover it in a layer of salt but to allow the large granules to stay in one spot for a long time to get a bite into the surface. Then I mixed a salt brine mixture in a quart spray bottle and would mist the fender once or twice a day or when ever I happened to walk by it. I did this for a few weeks. After that I took the fender and buried it in my kids sand box and kept the sand moist for an additional few weeks. By this time I had a pretty nice texture to the metal and all I needed to do was rust it to the degree I wanted. I kept the fender sitting outside my shop door and pretty much every time I went by it I would fill up a large cup of water out of the water spigot by the door and give it a splash of water. Once in a while I would mist it with the saltwater brine. The key to getting something to rust in not to keep it wet all the time but to get it wet and then to let it dry. Metal needs oxygen to rust. You can try the vinegar, beach, hydrogen peroxide treatments. Just do a google search. They do rust metal quickly but only a thing surface layer that tends to be a rather sickly orange / yellow color. Best of luck on your project.
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Thanks, I was wondering if molasses would speed up the process. I use molasses and water to remove rust, but when I remove the parts from the tank and after I pressure washed them if I did not paint them soon the parts would rust real quick.
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09-13-2015, 12:17 PM | #13 |
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Continualy application of a wet slush of salt, water & fine metal grindings works quite well. The NEXT owner of the car will probably CUSS you PROFUSELY +*#%^&@&$*&%&---------------------
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09-13-2015, 01:58 PM | #14 |
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Nothing rust metal faster on the ranch than fertilizer. Get some granular fertilizer and wet it on the steel rust very fast.
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09-13-2015, 05:41 PM | #15 |
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wow, those are some great ideas, I will let you know how I make out
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09-13-2015, 06:11 PM | #16 |
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I need to get this one rusted up pretty quick in time for the next car show. Good suggestions.
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I use semi gloss oil in brown-let the pigment drop to the bottom, dont stir it, and use the upper portion of the can......................
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09-14-2015, 07:46 PM | #19 |
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wow, I am impressed. Thank you for all the information. I am really hopeful that I can pull this off.
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