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banjoQ · 11-29-2013, 06:54 PM

I have a 37' truck cab and would like to find assembly or exploded diagrams of the doors. Currently my doors have just the window regulators and latch mechanisms and what is left of the window channels. I need to find out what kind of seals were used in the lower part of the window opening and if there was any felt in the interior tracks. As of now, I have nothing to compare to. Also I would like to determine if I have the correct regulators. I have freed up the ones I have and have found that they go all the way up and then forward to close. There is a 90 degree turn in the track at the end of it's travel, thus allowing for the forward motion. Is this correct? In my research of both the advance search function and in the few books I have I have seen references to "smokers" windows. Is that what these are? It makes sense as there are no wind wings. I would also like to find out if there was any weather stripping installed on these trucks. If there was any on my truck, it's long since gone. If anyone knows of this info, weather hard copy or web info I would appreciate the tip. Thanks- Q

Zeke...PA · 11-29-2013, 09:32 PM

There is none that I know of, I have a passenger 37 and could find no breakdowns. Frustrating ! Try Bob Drake catalog, Carpenter, C & G Catalogs. Not like the Model A, where there is some good books. Zeke

hotcoupe · 11-29-2013, 09:57 PM

my `37 1/2 ton has no weather stripping on the door, and your descrition of the window operation is accurate.
tom

banjoQ · 11-29-2013, 11:34 PM

Zeke- Thanks, I have all the catalogs you mentioned. I will have to go through them again and see what I come up with.
Hot coupe- Thanks, good to know that I have the correct regulators. Now I just have to figure out what I need. I have what is left of the upper channel, kind of canvas covered metal. Snaps in around top of door. How about the lower, where the window comes up from the door. Rubber seal, felt, or whiskers? Rubber seal would make the most sense here. It would be great to know what I'm looking for. I spent some time today on the net, could not find any diagrams or good photos. I'll check catalogs, make some calls. Thanks-Q

kiwitony · 11-30-2013, 01:39 AM

Hi, complete window channel kits are available on ebay,they have everything you need.The bits inside the door are felt cover metal channels that are heild in place by a little metal spike and a slot arrangement, they are 2 inches deep to allow the window to slide back and down. there is a seal that goes across the bottom of the door held in place by the door card clips, you will see a recess in the line of holes along the bottom edge of the door where it fits.There were no seals as such around the door but I have used 39 closed car seals and they fit well.Inside the cab there is a windlace strip with a rubber tube in it that is held on by the hood lining and metal strips. I have just done all this on my 37 as I froze my butt off on a recent road trip. It has made a huge difference and cut down the wind noise as well.Cheers Tony.

kiwitony · 11-30-2013, 01:53 AM

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Hi I've just checked ebay for you,Gearhead world has all the stuff you need. ebay no27069249339. These are Bob Drake parts so will be available there and other places. Hope this helps. Tony.

banjoQ · 11-30-2013, 01:31 PM

Tony - Thanks for the info, very helpful. Will look for those kits and see what I can come up with. How about the lower section of the window opening, is there a rubber seal where the window rises out of the door? Seems like there should be. Will take a close look at the kits. Thanks again. - Q

Lawson Cox · 11-30-2013, 01:54 PM

There are little rubber bumpers that are pushed into the inner part of the door, I think. They are about an inch long and 1/8 to 1/4 inches thick. They do not seal anything, they just keep the window glass pretty well in place and prevent the glass from bouncing around. There is no weather strips around the circumference of the door. The wind lace seals the gaps. At the bottom of the door there is a long rather flat piece that fits between the door and the door panel that keeps the wind from coming under the door. The windlace starts at the very bottom of the door opening, over the inner part of the rocker panel, going completely around the door and back down over the inner rocker panel at the other edge of the door opening. I am having trouble with my pictures and posting them or I would attach a photo.

Don Rogers · 11-30-2013, 04:21 PM

Tony, Here are the correct window regulators for your truck.

kiwitony · 12-01-2013, 02:08 AM

on the lower edge of the window opening is a felt strip with a metal edge that clips to the inside lip of the window opening, a long one on the outside and two short ones for the inside as you have the notch in the door for pulling it closed. all this is in the kit including the clips.These strips stop the window pinching your arm when going over bumps, while having your arm out the window.Cheers Tony.

Lawson Cox · 12-01-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kiwitony

on the lower edge of the window opening is a felt strip with a metal edge that clips to the inside lip of the window opening, a long one on the outside and two short ones for the inside as you have the notch in the door for pulling it closed. all this is in the kit including the clips.These strips stop the window pinching your arm when going over bumps, while having your arm out the window.Cheers Tony.

Well phrased Tony.

11-29-2013, 06:54 PM	#1
banjoQ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Pacifica, Ca. Posts: 299	37' truck door/exploded view digram I have a 37' truck cab and would like to find assembly or exploded diagrams of the doors. Currently my doors have just the window regulators and latch mechanisms and what is left of the window channels. I need to find out what kind of seals were used in the lower part of the window opening and if there was any felt in the interior tracks. As of now, I have nothing to compare to. Also I would like to determine if I have the correct regulators. I have freed up the ones I have and have found that they go all the way up and then forward to close. There is a 90 degree turn in the track at the end of it's travel, thus allowing for the forward motion. Is this correct? In my research of both the advance search function and in the few books I have I have seen references to "smokers" windows. Is that what these are? It makes sense as there are no wind wings. I would also like to find out if there was any weather stripping installed on these trucks. If there was any on my truck, it's long since gone. If anyone knows of this info, weather hard copy or web info I would appreciate the tip. Thanks- Q

11-29-2013, 09:32 PM	#2
Zeke...PA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Delta, PA Posts: 525	Re: 37' truck door/exploded view digram There is none that I know of, I have a passenger 37 and could find no breakdowns. Frustrating ! Try Bob Drake catalog, Carpenter, C & G Catalogs. Not like the Model A, where there is some good books. Zeke __________________ Only problem with retirement is never a day off

11-29-2013, 09:57 PM	#3
hotcoupe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: imperial,mo Posts: 694	Re: 37' truck door/exploded view digram my `37 1/2 ton has no weather stripping on the door, and your descrition of the window operation is accurate. tom

11-29-2013, 11:34 PM	#4
banjoQ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Pacifica, Ca. Posts: 299	Re: 37' truck door/exploded view digram Zeke- Thanks, I have all the catalogs you mentioned. I will have to go through them again and see what I come up with. Hot coupe- Thanks, good to know that I have the correct regulators. Now I just have to figure out what I need. I have what is left of the upper channel, kind of canvas covered metal. Snaps in around top of door. How about the lower, where the window comes up from the door. Rubber seal, felt, or whiskers? Rubber seal would make the most sense here. It would be great to know what I'm looking for. I spent some time today on the net, could not find any diagrams or good photos. I'll check catalogs, make some calls. Thanks-Q

11-30-2013, 01:39 AM	#5
kiwitony Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Whangaparaoa New Zealand Posts: 263	Re: 37' truck door/exploded view digram Hi, complete window channel kits are available on ebay,they have everything you need.The bits inside the door are felt cover metal channels that are heild in place by a little metal spike and a slot arrangement, they are 2 inches deep to allow the window to slide back and down. there is a seal that goes across the bottom of the door held in place by the door card clips, you will see a recess in the line of holes along the bottom edge of the door where it fits.There were no seals as such around the door but I have used 39 closed car seals and they fit well.Inside the cab there is a windlace strip with a rubber tube in it that is held on by the hood lining and metal strips. I have just done all this on my 37 as I froze my butt off on a recent road trip. It has made a huge difference and cut down the wind noise as well.Cheers Tony.

11-30-2013, 01:53 AM	#6
kiwitony Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Whangaparaoa New Zealand Posts: 263	Re: 37' truck door/exploded view digram Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Hi I've just checked ebay for you,Gearhead world has all the stuff you need. ebay no27069249339. These are Bob Drake parts so will be available there and other places. Hope this helps. Tony.

11-30-2013, 01:31 PM	#7
banjoQ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Pacifica, Ca. Posts: 299	Re: 37' truck door/exploded view digram Tony - Thanks for the info, very helpful. Will look for those kits and see what I can come up with. How about the lower section of the window opening, is there a rubber seal where the window rises out of the door? Seems like there should be. Will take a close look at the kits. Thanks again. - Q

11-30-2013, 01:54 PM	#8
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: 37' truck door/exploded view digram There are little rubber bumpers that are pushed into the inner part of the door, I think. They are about an inch long and 1/8 to 1/4 inches thick. They do not seal anything, they just keep the window glass pretty well in place and prevent the glass from bouncing around. There is no weather strips around the circumference of the door. The wind lace seals the gaps. At the bottom of the door there is a long rather flat piece that fits between the door and the door panel that keeps the wind from coming under the door. The windlace starts at the very bottom of the door opening, over the inner part of the rocker panel, going completely around the door and back down over the inner rocker panel at the other edge of the door opening. I am having trouble with my pictures and posting them or I would attach a photo. __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Last edited by Lawson Cox; 12-01-2013 at 08:24 PM.

12-01-2013, 02:08 AM	#10
kiwitony Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Whangaparaoa New Zealand Posts: 263	Re: 37' truck door/exploded view digram on the lower edge of the window opening is a felt strip with a metal edge that clips to the inside lip of the window opening, a long one on the outside and two short ones for the inside as you have the notch in the door for pulling it closed. all this is in the kit including the clips.These strips stop the window pinching your arm when going over bumps, while having your arm out the window.Cheers Tony.