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48-710 · 10-23-2012, 09:40 PM

G'Day gang,
I have a couple of questions re a 1952 Pilot. What I would like to know is ....... Does the' 37 21 stud motor gaskets fit and does any other crank fit ?. The crank that's in the engine is ground .040" rods and .030" mains. It has the thick walled rod brgs with the a flange and a locating tang. I'm having trouble finding the under size bearings . Thanks in advanced. Regards Gary

Brian · 10-23-2012, 11:40 PM

Gidday Gary Surman, Yeah man ,any 21 stud gasket set will fit, any Yankee 21 stud crank will fit, but it'll have a shorter snout, also, the 21 stud flanged full floaters will fit either crank or rod assembly you wish to use. Actually, it pays to use the Polite rods, cause they've always run locked in shells, so measure up betterer than rods that have been running floaters, so should hopefully still be within stock specs. Anything else you need to know bro [cause I'm a Kiwi and proud of it! sweet as] Nah worries mate, just send me a PM, [just not that skankie thing of yours!] Brian just jousting with one of my Aussie cuzzie bros from across the ditch.

48-710 · 10-24-2012, 05:50 AM

Brian, Eah bro, thanks for the quick reply.Just for that I won't mention the All Blacks game or the Silver Ferns defeat. Nah just kidding. I will see if I can find any locked in the rod brgs and run with that. Thanks again, Gary

Bruce Lancaster · 10-24-2012, 10:00 AM

The crank needed was used here '37-38 21 stud, '38 only 24, and 1936 insert bearing only...PN begins with 68.
In England, all the 21 stud English built truck, military and industrial engines have right crank, Canadian 24 stud military not.

Brian · 10-24-2012, 12:54 PM

Actually, the Pilot crank is different to the American 21 stud crank. It has the longer, larger dia crank snout as 39 onward engines have, also the drillings for oil holes in crank journals is different. However, the interchangeability comes about because all bearing journal measurements between the two crankshafts is identical.

Bruce Lancaster · 10-24-2012, 12:57 PM

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Aha! I should have been able to deduce the length, as Ford England used the '37 type motor in '39 deluxes...

10-23-2012, 09:40 PM	#1
48-710 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mildura ,Australia Posts: 163	Ford Pilot question G'Day gang, I have a couple of questions re a 1952 Pilot. What I would like to know is ....... Does the' 37 21 stud motor gaskets fit and does any other crank fit ?. The crank that's in the engine is ground .040" rods and .030" mains. It has the thick walled rod brgs with the a flange and a locating tang. I'm having trouble finding the under size bearings . Thanks in advanced. Regards Gary

10-23-2012, 11:40 PM	#2
Brian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Masterton, New Zealand Posts: 3,834	Re: Ford Pilot question Gidday Gary Surman, Yeah man ,any 21 stud gasket set will fit, any Yankee 21 stud crank will fit, but it'll have a shorter snout, also, the 21 stud flanged full floaters will fit either crank or rod assembly you wish to use. Actually, it pays to use the Polite rods, cause they've always run locked in shells, so measure up betterer than rods that have been running floaters, so should hopefully still be within stock specs. Anything else you need to know bro [cause I'm a Kiwi and proud of it! sweet as] Nah worries mate, just send me a PM, [just not that skankie thing of yours!] Brian just jousting with one of my Aussie cuzzie bros from across the ditch.

10-24-2012, 05:50 AM	#3
48-710 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mildura ,Australia Posts: 163	Re: Ford Pilot question Brian, Eah bro, thanks for the quick reply.Just for that I won't mention the All Blacks game or the Silver Ferns defeat. Nah just kidding. I will see if I can find any locked in the rod brgs and run with that. Thanks again, Gary

10-24-2012, 10:00 AM	#4
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Ford Pilot question The crank needed was used here '37-38 21 stud, '38 only 24, and 1936 insert bearing only...PN begins with 68. In England, all the 21 stud English built truck, military and industrial engines have right crank, Canadian 24 stud military not.

10-24-2012, 12:54 PM	#5
Brian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Masterton, New Zealand Posts: 3,834	Re: Ford Pilot question Actually, the Pilot crank is different to the American 21 stud crank. It has the longer, larger dia crank snout as 39 onward engines have, also the drillings for oil holes in crank journals is different. However, the interchangeability comes about because all bearing journal measurements between the two crankshafts is identical.

10-24-2012, 12:57 PM	#6
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Ford Pilot question Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Aha! I should have been able to deduce the length, as Ford England used the '37 type motor in '39 deluxes...