The Ford Barn

jhexide · 11-25-2016, 03:48 PM

I HAVE AN 8RT
I PU A SHORT BELLHOUSING AND STARTER PLATE ,THE BELLHOUSING FITS FINE, BUT THE BOTTOM OF THE STARTER PLATE WONT GO BACK AGAINST THE OILPAN,AS ,THERE IS AN ATTACHED PLATE OF SORTS ON BACK OF PAN,WITH 2 BOLTS HOLES,MY PLATE WONT FIT FLUSH
DO I HAVE THE WRONG STARTER PLATE, IM THINKING..?
thanks in advance..!

Bob C · 11-25-2016, 04:29 PM

Check out the link, after it loads click on the ? or page icon for description.
http://www.flatheadv8.org/bellhousing.pdf

Bob

19Fordy · 11-25-2016, 04:54 PM

j: Sounds like you might have the rear sump 49-51 Merc oil pan as shown in #26 of the site mentioned above. It fits the 49-51 Merc pressed steel bellhousing. However, just for the heck of it remove those bolts and bracket and see if it will then fit your 8RT bellhousing. Here is a photo of the 49-51 merc pressed steel bellhousing with 49-51 Merc rear sump oil pan on an 8BA. Transmission is 1940 ford. That Y shaped attachment in the first photo is an aftermarket anti-chatter bracket that was made for 40-48 Fords.

glennsanders · 11-25-2016, 05:07 PM

That a great illustration but I can't open up the icons can someone put list up on what they are.

V8COOPMAN · 11-25-2016, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by glennsanders

That a great illustration but I can't open up the icons can someone put list up on what they are.

Glenn.......You must place your cursor OVER the QUESTION MARKS in the circle. A window will pop-up to display the details for each one. DD

Ross F-1 · 11-25-2016, 07:14 PM

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If he has a truck, the truck oil pans don't use the L-bracket to the bellhousing. The pan has an integral bracket. Truck starter plates are recessed across the width of the oil pan to clear the "dust seal" that bolts on the back of the pan.

glennsanders · 11-25-2016, 08:48 PM

Thanks, I guess can not check it out on my phone is the problem

Overkill-F1 · 11-25-2016, 09:43 PM

Ross,
My '52 C1BA/8RT has a loose bracket that appears similar to the one in post#6 that 52 Merc-CT shows. The only difference is there are two nuts that hold it to the bottom of the pan and two threaded holes in the part that faces towards the starter plate & bellhousing.
...Terry
?! -52 Merc-CT's post just disappeared?!

jhexide · 11-25-2016, 10:26 PM

i have the unpainted pan in #25 pic
so yes i think i need a truck starter plate ,which is flat except where the starter bolts on,as my plate has a raised lip across the bottom
and my bellhousing is cast,not pressed

jhexide · 11-25-2016, 10:29 PM

the guy a bought the engine from removed it from a 50 or 51 pickup,and he diddnt sell me the bellhousing or plate,i sourced those elswhere

Ross F-1 · 11-26-2016, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Overkill-F1

Ross,
My '52 C1BA/8RT has a loose bracket that appears similar to the one in post#6 that 52 Merc-CT shows. The only difference is there are two nuts that hold it to the bottom of the pan and two threaded holes in the part that faces towards the starter plate & bellhousing.
...Terry
?! -52 Merc-CT's post just disappeared?!

I wonder if you have a Merc oil pan? That's what I'm running.

Overkill-F1 · 11-27-2016, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross F-1

I wonder if you have a Merc oil pan? That's what I'm running.

Ross,
It is interesting to see the differences in the oil pans and the brackets.
Mine is a '52 Ford 8RT truck oil pan, but maybe different being a Canadian truck, Eh?
Also mine doesn't have the dust shield like you showed previously. I think my starter plate is supposed to have a molded rubber strip along it's upper edge, but I'm not sure of that, it's missing.
...Terry

Ross F-1 · 11-27-2016, 03:57 PM

Wow, never seen one like that, Terry! Does the pan have any stampings, in particular a C8RT-6675, indicating Canadian?

Overkill-F1 · 11-27-2016, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross F-1

Wow, never seen one like that, Terry! Does the pan have any stampings, in particular a C8RT-6675, indicating Canadian?

Ross,
I don't think there are any part number stampings. I went over nearly every square inch when I cleaned, sanded & painted it. I usually make note of any #'s I come across, but I'll take it off the shelf and have another look.
...Terry

rotorwrench · 11-27-2016, 06:17 PM

That is definitely a different form of truck pan. It may be a Canadian Ford only part. The US built pans all have the aluminum back plate with the long dust seal. That one looks like a different form of the Mercury type design but with a deeper sump and a clean out for trucks.

11-25-2016, 03:48 PM	#1
jhexide Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: SE Pa Posts: 28	Pickup truck starter plate,8rt I HAVE AN 8RT I PU A SHORT BELLHOUSING AND STARTER PLATE ,THE BELLHOUSING FITS FINE, BUT THE BOTTOM OF THE STARTER PLATE WONT GO BACK AGAINST THE OILPAN,AS ,THERE IS AN ATTACHED PLATE OF SORTS ON BACK OF PAN,WITH 2 BOLTS HOLES,MY PLATE WONT FIT FLUSH DO I HAVE THE WRONG STARTER PLATE, IM THINKING..? thanks in advance..!

11-25-2016, 05:07 PM	#4
glennsanders Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Sharpsburg md Posts: 480	Re: Pickup truck starter plate,8rt That a great illustration but I can't open up the icons can someone put list up on what they are.

11-25-2016, 08:48 PM	#7
glennsanders Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Sharpsburg md Posts: 480	Re: Pickup truck starter plate,8rt Thanks, I guess can not check it out on my phone is the problem

11-25-2016, 09:43 PM	#8
Overkill-F1 Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 89	Re: Pickup truck starter plate,8rt Ross, My '52 C1BA/8RT has a loose bracket that appears similar to the one in post#6 that 52 Merc-CT shows. The only difference is there are two nuts that hold it to the bottom of the pan and two threaded holes in the part that faces towards the starter plate & bellhousing. ...Terry ?! -52 Merc-CT's post just disappeared?!

11-25-2016, 10:26 PM	#9
jhexide Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: SE Pa Posts: 28	Re: Pickup truck starter plate,8rt i have the unpainted pan in #25 pic so yes i think i need a truck starter plate ,which is flat except where the starter bolts on,as my plate has a raised lip across the bottom and my bellhousing is cast,not pressed

11-25-2016, 04:29 PM	#2
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 8,753	Re: Pickup truck starter plate,8rt Check out the link, after it loads click on the ? or page icon for description. http://www.flatheadv8.org/bellhousing.pdf Bob

11-25-2016, 10:29 PM	#10
jhexide Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: SE Pa Posts: 28	Re: Pickup truck starter plate,8rt the guy a bought the engine from removed it from a 50 or 51 pickup,and he diddnt sell me the bellhousing or plate,i sourced those elswhere

11-27-2016, 03:57 PM	#13
Ross F-1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NM Posts: 2,438	Re: Pickup truck starter plate,8rt Wow, never seen one like that, Terry! Does the pan have any stampings, in particular a C8RT-6675, indicating Canadian? __________________ '52 F-1, EAB flathead

11-27-2016, 06:17 PM	#15
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,436	Re: Pickup truck starter plate,8rt That is definitely a different form of truck pan. It may be a Canadian Ford only part. The US built pans all have the aluminum back plate with the long dust seal. That one looks like a different form of the Mercury type design but with a deeper sump and a clean out for trucks.