1938 Ford Standard Coupe

[mercman from oz]

This survivor 1938 Ford Standard Coupe was on display at the recent 2023 Early Ford V8 Nationals in Dearborn.
I notice that it has a Chrome plated Windscreen Frame.
Is this correct, or did the Standard models come with Painted Windscreen Frames?

[ford38v8]

Originally Posted by mercman from oz

This survivor 1938 Ford Standard Coupe was on display at the recent 2023 Early Ford V8 Nationals in Dearborn.
I notice that it has a Chrome plated Windscreen Frame.
Is this correct, or did the Standard models come with Painted Windscreen Frames?

Both are correct, one early, the other late. Early '38 Standards had body color windshield frame, together with body striping. Beginning in January, 1938, rustless steel body moldings, grill bars, and windshield frames were adopted for the Standard model.

[mercman from oz]

Thanks Alan for this information about Early and Late models.
I found this picture of an Early 1938 Ford Standard Coupe.
Notice that this example has a painted Windscreen Frame and painted Stripe.

[rockfla]

SO Ford38V8


One would assume that followed suit across ALL the "standard" body styles?

[Jack E/NJ]

mercman > I found this picture of an Early 1938 Ford Standard Coupe.


I believe both the early & late standards had 3 pairs of SS trim strips as shown on the elusive 3 window shown below on the right.

[ford38v8]

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Originally Posted by mercman from oz

Thanks Alan for this information about Early and Late models.
I found this picture of an Early 1938 Ford Standard Coupe.
Notice that this example has a painted Windscreen Frame and painted Stripe.

That’s a pretty rare bird! I’ve never seen one in person, just pictures. Note that with this example, being a Standard, yet it is fitted out with whitewalls, fog light, radio, and peep mirror.
Rockfla, yes, all passenger cars were to make the change over at that time, and dealers were to update stock on hand.

[mercman from oz]

Early 1938 Ford Sales Brochure showing Deluxe and Standard 1938 Fords.
Notice that the Standard Tudor Sedan doesn't have any SS Trim on the Grille?

[mercman from oz]

Another Early 1938 Ford Sales Brochure showing Deluxe and Standard 1938 Ford Grilles.
Note the absence of Stainless Steel Trim on the Grille of the Standard model.

[ford38v8]

All this talk about grille bars... As I recall, Australia made their own rules on many things, including grille bars, did they not?

[mercman from oz]

This Illustration from the Australian 1938 Ford Sales Brochure show what is supposed to be a 1938 Ford Standard Club Coupe.
This picture actually shows a 1938 Ford Standard Coupe, a body style that was never offered in Australia.
In 1938, Ford Club Coupes were offered here as either Standard or Deluxe models.
It is oblivious that this illustration displays artistic license.

[mercman from oz]

To answer ford38v8's question, the only year that Ford Australia offered a different appearing Grille was in 1937.
Part way through the 1937 model year, Ford Australia decided to paint all 1937 Ford Grilles body colour and add 4 SS Strips each side.
On this grille, the bottom strips that extend each side of the Crank Hole Trim are missing.

[30ccpickup]

Sales on the 38 Standard did not take off right away. Henry wanted them dressed up. By early January the stainless Steel was added to the windshield, grill, wiper and pin stripe. Ford instructed the dealers to retrofit the grills on the cars that were still on the lot. So there are legit mix matches out there.

[rockfla]

A friend here in town has what I believe is a "Early" 38 Standard un-restored car. I will try and get by and snag a few photos for this post!!! Great post by the way....learning A Lot!!!

[Seth Swoboda]

I got to drive that '38 standard coupe in Dearborn. I'd ilke to own a driver '38 standard coupe someday.

[30ccpickup]

I was attempting to post images in this thread. To cover up my ineptness, since I know how to edit, but not delete, here are my gear head stats on my V860 coupe:

Standard Coupe
Model: 82A-770A
Weight 2,354,
WB: 112 in.
Original Price: 595
Number Produced: 13,712

1938 V8-60hp
L-head
Displacement: 136
Bore 2.60 x 3.20
Stroke 3.2
Maximum brake horsepower 60 @ 3500 rpm
Torque ft lbs: 94 lbs @ 2500 rpm.
Compression 6.6
Compression at cranking 105
Iron block, Aluminum heads

Transmission gear ratios:
1st gear = 3.070
2nd gear = 1.83
third 1.0
Reverse = 4.015
Lub Capacity 1.75

Rear axle:
Gear ratio 4.44
Teeth pinion 9
Teeth gear 40

[30ccpickup]

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by 30ccpickup

I'll eventually figure out the picture thing

BELOW is a link to an instructional narrative that I wrote-up some time back to help folks figure out how to post pics here on the F'Barn. It's really pretty simple to do. Click on the link!

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showp...&postcount=649


Coop

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[mercman from oz]

Close-up shot of the early production 1938 Ford Standard Coupe

[30ccpickup]

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

BELOW is a link to an instructional narrative that I wrote-up some time back to help folks figure out how to post pics here on the F'Barn. It's really pretty simple to do. Click on the link!

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showp...&postcount=649


Coop

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Thank you!

[38 coupe]

I remember seeing that early 38 standard coupe at the 2013 meet in Lake Tahoe. It was an amazing condition unrestored car. In the same row of cars were two other 38 standards, one with the side trim and the painted windshield, and the last with all the shiny parts. I can't for the life of me find a picture of all three cars together. Oh well, I'll add another of the very nice early 38 coupe.