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Old 03-26-2022, 02:20 PM   #21
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Guess I'm weird, I don't mind the lap belt and can tolerate the early 80's pull to relieve tension type. But those newer vehicle constant tension restraints make me feel as though I'm getting an MRI every time I get behind the wheel. Tough call on older vehicle, collapsible steering and flexible shaft on 68 or newer steering but no one seems to worry. They showed us photos of impaled drivers back in they days of drivers ed. Seem to remember that none of the belts are attached to the frame only the body. Have heard many stories for the good or bad of them, in the end it's up to the owners.
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Old 03-26-2022, 06:20 PM   #22
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I remember the driver ed film from about 1966 that said that an unbelted occupant was dead ( thru the windshield) in 3/10 of a second. Funny the details you remember ( or rather THINK you remember when there is no one around to challenge your memory.)
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Old 03-27-2022, 08:01 AM   #23
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That's a painful photo. The '70 Boss 302 was the prettiest pony cars ever made, and one of the prettiest cars of all time. I don't suppose you were able to repair it? Rolling isn't a very redeemable injury.

It was repaired and went on to live a happy life as a B sedan SCCA competitor for two years then back to the street as a really good driver. Picture of it just after returning to the street. Removing the 6 point roll bar was still to be done.
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Old 03-27-2022, 05:07 PM   #24
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It was repaired and went on to live a happy life as a B sedan SCCA competitor for two years then back to the street as a really good driver. Picture of it just after returning to the street. Removing the 6 point roll bar was still to be done.

Impressive! Very nice car, and great job keeping it from the crusher.
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Old 03-31-2022, 08:08 AM   #25
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I have 3-point belts in my '59 Ford. The belt kits are made by one source, shop with your wallet. Juliano's is a good place. I got a GM style belt, they look good. For the B-pillar, I used their supplied plate, which has .200" holes, I suppose to use 3/16" hardware to mount them.

I had to use a hole saw to make a lower access hole to get the plates in. Use a wire to pull them into place. I tapped the 2 holes for 1/4-28 screws to secure the plates.

The supplied shoulder bolts will be too short to be installed with the pillar garnish. I picked up some grade-8 longer bolts and machined some spacers to duplicate the shoulder portion of the too-short bolts. I had to machine a hole through the garnish.
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Old 03-31-2022, 08:28 AM   #26
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to each their own but to me risk is the elixir of life.without it i would already be dead.
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Old 03-31-2022, 11:40 AM   #27
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I must have lost something in the translation. How is taking risks "the elixir of life," and how does it prolong life?
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Old 03-31-2022, 01:22 PM   #28
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prolonging life has nothing to do with it.between the media and goverment theve got everyone scared shitless.ide sooner live to be 50 than one hundred hiding under my bed.kids cant move anymore.cant even go to the park by themselves.i never lock my doors or take the keys out of my car.OTHERS CAN LIVE THE WAY THEY WANT.
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Old 03-31-2022, 02:07 PM   #29
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We will, thanks.
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Old 03-31-2022, 06:29 PM   #30
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Old 03-31-2022, 07:53 PM   #31
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How about the wife, kids, mother, father, uncles and aunts that you leave behind?
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Old 03-31-2022, 08:25 PM   #32
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How about the wife, kids, mother, father, uncles and aunts that you leave behind?
... or are riding in the car?

Or the STATE TROOPER that will issue a written reminder?

Had my head go into an A-PILLAR once, and I knew better.

... hmm ... Come to think about it, that was about the same time the voices became more noticeable ...
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Old 04-06-2022, 08:11 PM   #33
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I bought a set from Concours with the eye and a large flat washers because the had Peacock Blue to match my interior. Punch the hole do not drill…… I install thousands of them at Sears Auto Center in the early 60’s
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Old 04-08-2022, 08:11 AM   #34
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Punch the hole do not drill……
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THANX for asking as I would like to know also.
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Old 04-08-2022, 09:29 AM   #36
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A drill will snag your carpet. If no carpet do what you want.
A punch also breaks thru the metal and when you place the large washer rolls the splits back on the floorboard. Not a Sears but I went under mine and using a smaller flat punch flattened back the splits.
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Old 04-08-2022, 11:24 AM   #37
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Yes, a drill can definitely ruin your carpet. The drill bit will usually snag the carpet and cause long runs to pull out.

Another method for drilling holes in carpet is to use a soldering iron to "cauterize" the edges of the carpet hole so that the drill bit can't snag the carpet fibers.

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Old 04-08-2022, 11:38 AM   #38
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Anyone have a diagram or measurements for installing belts in 56 Ford passenger car?
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Old 04-08-2022, 12:16 PM   #39
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This is the first time that I've read a recommendation for using a punch. However, I have read about using a soldering iron to melt the carpet to prevent snags. Obviously, you want to make absolutely certain about the hole's location. If you're a smoker, it probably won't matter.
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Anyone have a diagram or measurements for installing belts in 56 Ford passenger car?
There is an INSTRUCTION SHEET for FORD's ACCESSORY SEAT BELT KIT install, but it may appear illegible -

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