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jerry grayson · 02-24-2015, 03:34 PM

I would like to buy, borrow or rent these tools. Any leads on this would be appreciated.

jerry grayson · 02-28-2015, 05:43 PM

I am building a 40 front end and someone surely has some help with my question? I don't want to grind and drive the studs in as I have done in the past. I made a brass tool years ago that you can drive the studs in after they are ground down some, but I would prefer to press them in.

JSeery · 02-28-2015, 05:59 PM

Thought someone posted something about using a pitman arm tool and some sockets or adapters.

Edit: Not pitman arm tool, ball joint tool (see #9)

Kube · 02-28-2015, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jerry grayson

I am building a 40 front end and someone surely has some help with my question? I don't want to grind and drive the studs in as I have done in the past. I made a brass tool years ago that you can drive the studs in after they are ground down some, but I would prefer to press them in.

Plus, if grind them down it defeats the designed purpose of the press fit.

deuce_roadster · 02-28-2015, 10:13 PM

See if someone near by has the KR Wilson tool to do this. It makes the job of removal and installation so much easier. The shells of those are not thick, just sheetmetal, I wouldn't grind on them at all besides what Kube reminded you of.

G.M. · 02-28-2015, 11:35 PM

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Pete · 02-28-2015, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by G.M.

Get the right size reamer to clean the hole for a press fit. G.M.

Either that or convert to Delrin bushings.
You will never have to replace them again.

36coupe · 03-01-2015, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete

Either that or convert to Delrin bushings.
You will never have to replace them again.

Who sells delrin bushings? Or do you buy Delrin and make your own?

SofaKing · 03-01-2015, 10:34 AM

I used a balljoint press from oreilly auto parts and a little improvisation. I also recall seeing the Delrin bushings on speedway.

Terry,OH · 03-01-2015, 10:36 AM

Jerry: Why not make a press to push the NOS style bushing in. Do you have a machine shop with welding capability, in your area?
36coupe: The rodders have been using a plastic like bushing. I believe Bob Drake has them in his on line catalog but you have to use the proper steel shackle bolt and end plate combination for the plastic (Delrin???) bushings. It's best to buy a complete kit for your spring eye size for the first installation.

ford38v8 · 03-01-2015, 10:50 AM

Speedway has the delrin shackle bushings. It sure makes life easier when you have to change out a broken axle during a road trip.

G.M. · 03-01-2015, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry,OH

Jerry: Why not make a press to push the NOS style bushing in. Do you have a machine shop with welding capability, in your area?
36coupe: The rodders have been using a plastic like bushing. I believe Bob Drake has them in his on line catalog but you have to use the proper steel shackle bolt and end plate combination for the plastic (Delrin???) bushings. It's best to buy a complete kit for your spring eye size for the first installation.

You can't just press them in a hole that is slightly undersize the thin metal sides buckle. You need to ream the hole a few thousandths smaller then the OD of the bushing. G.M.

Kube · 03-01-2015, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by G.M.

You can't just press them in a hole that is slightly undersize the thin metal sides buckle. You need to ream the hole a few thousandths smaller then the OD of the bushing. G.M.

Ford designed an interference fit of .003" - .005". That is a lot of interference and does in fact make this task a bit troublesome.
However, as has been stated previously, with the correct tools, this job can be done correctly.

Torchie · 03-01-2015, 01:37 PM

I did it the same way as sofaking.
Quite easy on the spring eye and with a little clean up on the axle perch it worked as well.
I used washers that fit over the stud but contacted with the outer tube as a pushing point.
Torchie

Terry,OH · 03-02-2015, 10:12 AM

The K R Wilson tool books show the original tools. These tools press in the shackle bolt using the exterior metal shell of the shackle to press onto, as Torchie mentions above.
The hole must be clean, round and a true size so running a hand reamer through the hole is important start (for 1940, 0.750", front and rear). It is the shackle bolt that is larger than the hole as Kube has mentioned.
To remove the old bolts it is much easier to start by removing the center bolt. Some can be hammered out but all can be pulled out. Again the K R Wilson tool book shows their tools for doing this job and the tools can be reproduced.

02-24-2015, 03:34 PM	#1
jerry grayson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Atlanta area Posts: 833	Spring shackle stud Remover/ installer set of tools I would like to buy, borrow or rent these tools. Any leads on this would be appreciated.

02-28-2015, 05:43 PM	#2
jerry grayson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Atlanta area Posts: 833	Re: Spring shackle stud Remover/ installer set of tools I am building a 40 front end and someone surely has some help with my question? I don't want to grind and drive the studs in as I have done in the past. I made a brass tool years ago that you can drive the studs in after they are ground down some, but I would prefer to press them in.

02-28-2015, 05:59 PM	#3
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: Spring shackle stud Remover/ installer set of tools Thought someone posted something about using a pitman arm tool and some sockets or adapters. Edit: Not pitman arm tool, ball joint tool (see #9) Last edited by JSeery; 03-01-2015 at 01:55 PM.

02-28-2015, 10:13 PM	#5
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,800	Re: Spring shackle stud Remover/ installer set of tools See if someone near by has the KR Wilson tool to do this. It makes the job of removal and installation so much easier. The shells of those are not thick, just sheetmetal, I wouldn't grind on them at all besides what Kube reminded you of.

02-28-2015, 11:35 PM	#6
G.M. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida and Penna. Posts: 4,471	Re: Spring shackle stud Remover/ installer set of tools Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Get the right size reamer to clean the hole for a press fit. G.M. __________________ www.fordcollector.com

03-01-2015, 10:36 AM	#10
Terry,OH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,751	Re: Spring shackle stud Remover/ installer set of tools Jerry: Why not make a press to push the NOS style bushing in. Do you have a machine shop with welding capability, in your area? 36coupe: The rodders have been using a plastic like bushing. I believe Bob Drake has them in his on line catalog but you have to use the proper steel shackle bolt and end plate combination for the plastic (Delrin???) bushings. It's best to buy a complete kit for your spring eye size for the first installation.

03-01-2015, 10:50 AM	#11
ford38v8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 6,645	Re: Spring shackle stud Remover/ installer set of tools Speedway has the delrin shackle bushings. It sure makes life easier when you have to change out a broken axle during a road trip. __________________ Alan

03-02-2015, 10:12 AM	#15
Terry,OH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,751	Re: Spring shackle stud Remover/ installer set of tools The K R Wilson tool books show the original tools. These tools press in the shackle bolt using the exterior metal shell of the shackle to press onto, as Torchie mentions above. The hole must be clean, round and a true size so running a hand reamer through the hole is important start (for 1940, 0.750", front and rear). It is the shackle bolt that is larger than the hole as Kube has mentioned. To remove the old bolts it is much easier to start by removing the center bolt. Some can be hammered out but all can be pulled out. Again the K R Wilson tool book shows their tools for doing this job and the tools can be reproduced.