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03-30-2012, 04:29 PM | #1 |
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Oil seepage between head and engine block
I have oil seeping out from between the head and the engine block on my B engine. I just bought the car and drove it about 10 miles and noticed this. Should I re-torque the head? Is the torque on a B engine head 55 foot pounds?
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03-30-2012, 05:18 PM | #2 |
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Re: Oil seepage between head and engine block
loose head nuts,improper head torque sequence, improper head torque, warped head or block
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03-30-2012, 05:43 PM | #3 |
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Re: Oil seepage between head and engine block
Good diagnosis by ford1. This is a common problem. I'd take the head off, put a new gasket on, maybe one of the new type that's supposed to compress better than the copper ones, and retorque it properly.
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Re: Oil seepage between head and engine block
First! Don't PANIC!! Torque the head first, so called "oil" may be soluable oil or some other anti-rust. Model A head gaskets DO NOT leak motor oil. Then clean old residue and see if it comes back. Same thing on one car I bought. I, personally, always add Bar's-Leaks just to feel good! By the way, I'm NOT an additive addict, as MOST are just a SNAKE OIL or PANTHER PISS money maker. Bill W.
(Torque it cold to 55ft.lbs. Do this at least twice, several days apart, DON'T loosen nuts when retorqueing!) VO
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03-30-2012, 06:57 PM | #5 |
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Re: Oil seepage between head and engine block
I agree, don't get worried just yet.. Retighten the head nuts from the center out.. Do not loosen first, just tighten.. Do it a couple times as mentioned and see what happens..
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03-30-2012, 10:15 PM | #7 |
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As others have said, their advice won't cost you anything. Wipe the seepage of, re-torque it, run it, let cool, and retorque. Do this a couple of times. If the seepage persists THEN replace the gasket and start the fun again. JMO
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Re: Oil seepage between head and engine block
I can't say for sure, but the oil pan dosn't look like a "B" pan. You might want to check the steering box out, grease isn't the best diet for the worm and sector.
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03-31-2012, 05:50 AM | #9 |
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I have to disagree with the do not loosen group. You need to break the "stickyness" of the nut on the head. Loosen the nut 1/8 turn and then tighten.
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Quote:
drain out some water from the radiator to be below deck level or you will end up with water in the cylinders
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Re: Oil seepage between head and engine block
what is the theory regarding not loosening the nut prior to a re torque?
Ever since Larry Brumfield suggested loosening it first, I have done that with 100% successful results. When you do not loosen first, you are only measuring the force required to break the static torque, which is more a result of rusting threads and surface tension than it is of the stretch in the stud. |
03-31-2012, 04:37 PM | #12 |
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Re: Oil seepage between head and engine block
Thanks guys. I re-torqued as best I can. Some of them were pretty loose. The problem is that head bolts 2, 8, 9 and 12 appear to be stripped. I got them all to 50lbs but #9. It would not tighten up to 50lbs.
Then when I went to 55lbs bolts #2,8 and 12 would not tighten.... Looks like it's time to take the head off and get out the helicoil. According to Vince Falter at http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/ABcy...comparison.htm it looks like I have a Police head. Based upon the picture of my head would you agree? Does the engine look like a B?
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Yes, B block with A police head.
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03-31-2012, 05:46 PM | #14 |
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Anty different shots of that intake?? What is it??
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Re: Oil seepage between head and engine block
May I suggest you also get rid of the metal tube for your terminal box to cutout wire before it rubs bare and shorts out?
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03-31-2012, 09:13 PM | #16 |
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700rpm, good catch. I will do that.
1931, the intake is homemade with a Stromberg 97 on it. The headers are straight pipes and homemade as well. The car was used in Hill Climb events and it's LOUD!! LOL.
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As Sgt Shultz used to say: Veerrrry Interessting.
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04-01-2012, 06:45 PM | #18 |
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Re: Oil seepage between head and engine block
I just used the "new" style head gasket on a B engine. Two different part numbers, so I assume an "A" head gasket will not work on the "B". I had the head surfaced just enough to clean it up and the new gasket has worked very well. I bought mine from Brattons.
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Re: Oil seepage between head and engine block
I used the Fel-Pro 7013 R3 gasket with the Brumfield 5.9 A head on a 33 B engine.You have to plug the 2 small holes on either side of the center water jacket hole on the B block.If you dont,you risk leaking coolant into the center cyls as the fire ring almost touches the edge of those holes.Tap the holes to 1/8" pipe& use plugs with an Allen hole.Tap the holes just enough,so that when the plugs are tight they are a few thou above the deck.I filled the holes with JB Weld& carefully filed the plugs level with the deck.This has worked well for over 13,000 miles.
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